It’s deadline day for companies vying to design and build the “big, beautiful” wall on the U.S.-Mexico border, a cornerstone promise of Donald Trump’s presidential campaign. President Trump laid out the requirements last month, explaining the wall should be between 18 to 30 feet tall, and extend least 6 feet underground. The wall should also have features that prevent climbing aids like grappling hooks, and the U.S. facing side should be “aesthetically pleasing.” The government agency in charge of overseeing all this is the U.S. Customs and Border Protection. For analysis on the wall and President Trump’s immigration policies, Jim sits down with the former commissioner of that agency under Barack Obama, Gil Kerlikowske.