The Empire Strikes Cash
About The Episode
Some of the items seen on ANTIQUES ROADSHOW take you right back to your childhood, evoking fun memories of long-forgotten treasures. But for some, a lifelong collecting passion is born. When expert Travis Landry discovered a rare set of 18 Star Wars figures straight from the original movie's era, still sealed in plastic on colorful cards at ROADSHOW in Salt Lake City, he had found the stuff of collecting dreams. Join host Adam Monahan as he speaks with Jim Swearingen, the Kenner designer who helped turn putty and Fisher-Price parts into a global phenomenon, to learn the real history behind the launch of Star Wars toys, and follows the results as the figures hit the auction block. Did the values of these beloved characters soar to a galaxy far, far away?
Adam: Do you have stuff that you see on Roadshow that just knocks you back to your childhood?
Marsha: Oh yeah, Barbie.
Adam: Barbie.
Marsha: Barbie's. Like number one there. I loved Barbie. She had the cutest little bathing suit. Then I'm like looking at it, thinking, wow, I remember being so young and loving this thing so much.
Adam: Yeah.
Marsha: And if I had only kept it mint-in-box, I'd have a $10,000 Barbie.
Adam - Narration: Well unfortunately for my boss, Marsha this episode is not about Barbie. That was sooooo Detours Season 4 Episode 7. But, fortunately for my excitable colleagues at Antiques Roadshow, some people do keep their toys mint in the box.
Peter Villa: Look at the colors popping on that card back. So sharp. So rich. There's no marks on that puppy - mmmmm! I actually wanna bid on this.
Travis Landry: You know, I still have my childhood collection in my basement today. It's like a shrine room.. Everything is still set up to the way I had placed it growing up as a child.
Adam: Star Wars toys.
Marsha: Yeah.
Adam: The little guys. Did you have those around your house for your kids or anything?
Marsha: I have daughters and a son, but we weren't a Star Wars family. My kids are too young for that.
Adam: That's true. But think of how old Travis is compared to your daughters.
Marsha: Yeah. Except Travis is like all the rest of our appraisers and warped about keeping things forever and like have rooms for, right.
Adam: What you wanna say? He, he's a dork who likes Star Wars and comic books and my daughters are cool.
Marsha: In all seriousness, it's a true passion. He really digs this stuff -
Adam - Narration: Travis does dig this stuff but will a treasure trove of Star Wars toys he appraised live up to their astronomical hype? On Today’s episode we’re tracking a bounty of figures flying from the Antiques Roadshow set to a high stakes auction and speak to a legendary designer about the birth of this toy empire. I’m Adam Monahan, and this is Antiques Roadshow Detours. Today: ‘The Empire Strikes Cash.’” When it comes to Star Wars, our appraiser Travis Landry and the franchise go waaay back..
Travis Landry: the first Star Wars film I had actually seen was Phantom Menace. I remember being dragged to the theater, with my brother and my mom for the midnight screening I would've been like four years old. I mean, there's nothing like Star Wars, it's mind blown.
Adam - Narration: And unbelievably, less than ten years later, Travis was already in business, selling collectible toys -
Travis Landry: So my gateway to everything is transformers. Going with my parents to different antique stores and collectible shops, I remember falling in love. I was mesmerized. I was 13. First time I went and bought a collection. My dad gave me the $700 to buy it. I flipped everything, kept the best piece for myself, which I still have in my family room.
Adam: Do you know how much you made flipping it?
Travis Landry: I do actually. It was 1400 bucks. a complete double up. And I was hooked.
Adam: Wow. You got the bug.
Travis Landry: Yeah, I know, it's crazy. The rush, the adrenaline. There's no other feeling like it in the world.
Adam - Narration: Soon this high school entrepreneur spots an ad - for a new reality TV Show - Toy Hunter, which he lands a spot on, but Travis had his sights set on the height of collectible show business....
Travis Landry: it was always my life's goal to get on Antiques Roadshow. I grew up watching it with my parents religiously every week.
Adam - Narration: At Age 20, that life goal was achieved! and Travis's contagious passion for appraising collectibles on TV have been a hit with viewers and fans including all his Roadshow teammates.
Adam: I think if I asked all the staff here, like who's our most energetic guy? You would win hands down. Just positive energy for days
Travis Landry: I'm just a big kid. I've never grown up. I'm doing the same thing since I was 12, 13 years old. I'm just, you know, a hairy child. I have a beard.
Adam - Narration: And so in 2025, this hairy, bearded child found himself in Salt Lake City working his 9th season at the collectibles table of his adolescent dream gig, Antiques Roadshow.
Travis Landry: It's early in the morning, and we have this lady and her sister who, their parents had a toy store…
Appraisal - Guest: I brought an original Star Wars action figure collection. They were owned by my parents. They had a toy store in Las Vegas, Nevada. After the toy store closed, they were stored in their basement.
Adam - Narration: Displayed for our TV cameras are 18 vintage Star Wars toys - small action figures sealed in plastic on colorful cards. The stuff of Travis's dreams.
Travis Landry: And you know, when I'm at Roadshow, I see people all the time with the Darth Vader carrying case. They open it up, there's a bunch of loose figures. But I never see like that amount of factory-sealed Star Wars in one setting on set. It just doesn't happen. It doesn't exist.
Appraisal - Travis: so you're correct. They're original.
Appraisal - Guest: Okay.
Appraisal - Travis: Kenner, Star Wars figures.
Appraisal - Guest: Great.
Appraisal - Travis: The first figures that hit the store shelves were in 1978.
Appraisal - Guest: Okay.
Appraisal - Travis: The film came out in 77, but Kenner was not ready to get product on the shelf for 77.
Appraisal - Guest: Okay.
Appraisal - Travis: So your first toys hit in 1978.
Adam: What I would like to do is just go back to the beginning, how did Star Wars toys begin?
Travis Landry: Before we get into the toys, let's play the toy market pre-Star Wars. The king of the toy market at this time, especially action figures, was Mego.
Adam - Narration: The New York-based Mego Corporation dominated the 8-inch licensed figure market, partnering with popular entertainment entities Marvel, DC, Star Trek, and Planet of the Apes, to name a few.
Travis Landry: Now, when Star Wars was coming out, George Lucas was extremely secretive about the project, so trying to get toy companies to commit to Star Wars without even really knowing anything about it was really hard.
Jim Swearingen: Mattel and Hasbro and a bunch of other toy companies had said no. I don't know exactly why, but Kenner said, well, we'll take a look at it. My name's James Swearingen, but I go by Jim and I was lucky enough to be the first designer of Star Wars toys back in 1977.
Adam: Wow.
Jim Swearingen: It was my baby for the first two and a half years.
Adam: Jim, I'm honored to meet you. It's not that often we have somebody that you can interview that actually worked on the thing that's being appraised on the table.
Jim Swearingen: I do watch Antiques Roadshow, I've actually gone to one of their events here in Cincinnati. I didn't take Star Wars toys with me. I probably should have.
Adam - Narration: Jim began his career at Cincinnati-based Kenner in the early 1970s, when the company was known for making gadget toys, the most successful of which being The Easy-Bake Oven. Then in 1974, the company struck it big with its first action figure license.
Jim Swearingen: I worked on the original $6 Million Man.
Adam - Narration: The hit TV show starring Lee Majors as Steve Austin, a critically injured astronaut, saved with six million dollars' of technology, which turned him into a bionic secret agent. For a few years in the mid-70s, he was the biggest thing on television, and on toy shelves.
Jim Swearingen: It did really well cause TV was a great vehicle 'cause they were basically advertising for the toys.
Adam - Narration: Kenner was then on the hunt for the next big thing which would attract the eyeballs of children slash toy purchasers, and along came Star Wars, but it was a tough call.
Jim Swearingen: The marketing people were not excited about Star Wars. They were looking at a movie that could last, weeks, maybe months.
Adam - Narration: Not like those long-running TV shows, that could have multiple seasons...but even if they thought the film would be a moderate success, there was still a major problem.
Jim Swearingen: Lucasfilm and 20th Century Fox were gonna drop it in May of 77, just a couple months from when we'd looked at it. And that meant that we wouldn't have product until 1978 because even with a crash schedule, it would take 52 weeks to do toys. And, that's a long time to keep your fingers crossed.
Adam - Narration: Despite this timeline, Kenner decided they were open to consider it.
Jim Swearingen: When the script came in. My boss, Dave Okada, said, who wants to read this script from Star Wars? I, was, like outta my seat. It was like, I, I know what that is.
Adam - Narration: Jim, a George Lucas fan, had read an article in Starlog, a monthly science fiction magazine, about the new up and coming feature from the young director and needless to say he was thrilled to volunteer.
Jim Swearingen: I got to take it home with a book of black and white photographs from the live action that was already finished. They were still working on the special effects. And they had sent me a snapshot of an X-Wing and a TIE Fighter. And that was all we had to work from.
Adam: Wow.
Jim Swearingen: We were a little bit blind
Adam - Narration: Kenner put together a presentation with what they had, but soon after, Jim would be exposed to some better research material when he was invited to a test-screening with some unsuspecting members of the public who'd been told they were gonna see -
Jim Swearingen: A movie called Alaska. When the first thing that pops on the screen is Lucas film. And then the next thing Star Wars, they're all like, what the hell is that? The crawl starts, you hear some more murmuring. 'cause there's some people that can't read without speaking. So you can hear this, you know, a long time ago.
Adam - Narration: in a galaxy far, far away
Jim Swearingen: And then when the princess ship comes and the pew, pew, pew start, that destroyer comes overhead, and as it comes. It gets louder, and the subwoofers are pulsing so you can actually feel the vibrations in the theater. So then it's off to the races. When the Death Star blew up, people were out of their seats, cheering for the rebels, having destroyed the Death Star.
Adam: When it ends, is there any part of you who's like, we're gonna sell a lot of toys?
Jim Swearingen: Well, yeah, I was, I knew that it was gonna be a pretty fun toy line.
Adam: when you start doing it, How many of these little guys are you gonna make?
Jim Swearingen: Yeah, well we committed to 12. I had mocked up at first 11 the mockups were adventure people and those didn't take very long. I mean, a couple days, you know, fiddling with, body putty and paint
Adam - Narration: Yes, the prototypes for the original Star Wars figures were Fisher-Price Adventure people and a load of putty. Jim painted his designs, listed out the parts, and took it all off to Kenner's model shop.
Jim Swearingen: And it's like, well, you can have 'em like, nine months from now. I said, well, we need him like half that time, the sculptors are all kind of going, oh, it's never gonna happen.
Adam - Narration: Jim explained the entire production process to me and why it would take so long but it was really technical and complicated and I got lost following along.
Adam: It sounds like I would need to watch a How's It Made on that so I could visualize it.
Jim Swearingen: Yeah.
Adam: Because you're describing it. I'm sure you did great. My small brain could not take it.
Adam - Narration: Let's just say, I think the modelers were right to laugh at Jim. So, Kenner knew there was no way they would get toys onto shelves in time for Christmas and came up with an ingenious placeholder to appease impatient fans-
Jim Swearingen: An envelope that had a backdrop showing all the first 12 characters. And it, I promise that you would get the figures first. But every radio or TV station in America, when they're doing a Christmas show, there's always a show about what's new for Christmas, they would all do a story about Kenner is selling an empty box. It's outrageous. Every time that aired, there was another sale. You could not pay for the PR, they have what? They have a Star Wars thing I can buy for my kid at Christmas. I gotta get one of those.
Adam - Narration: So under many a Christmas tree of 1977 hundreds of thousands of empty boxes lay waiting to be unwrapped -
Adam: And that empty box is actually worth a good amount of money right now. How did it feel when people are throwing their dollars down and you're getting the returns back of how good this is doing, what are you feeling as an employee of Kenner?
Jim Swearingen: Boy, we really have something. I can't believe that 50 years later, it's still one of the greatest lines that ever started. It amazes me how attached people have become to Star Wars.
Adam - Narration: So attached in fact, that moments like this become possible on your favorite TV appraisal show.
Appraisal - TRAVIS: For the group of 18 figures here, easily eight to 12,000 at auction.
Appraisal - GUEST: Oh my goodness. Wow. Who would've known?
Appraisal - TRAVIS: Not bad when you think they were $2.47 cents piece.
Appraisal - GUEST: Exactly. Yeah. With the original price tags. Yeah. That's awesome.
Appraisal - TRAVIS: Thank you Mum and Dad!
Appraisal - GUEST: Thank you.
Adam - Narration: Eight to twelve thousand dollars for 18 tiny plastic figures, at least according to the estimate given by our energetic appraiser. But what happens when Travis gets put to the test vs. another certified Star Wars geek AND the market when these figures hit the auction block? And which of our Star Wars figures will command the highest price? Find out the surprising answer after the break.
Adam - Narration: By May of 1978, the initial 12 Star Wars figures Jim Swearingen helped design were out in toy stores and over 26 million of them were sold in their first year. That large number is why loose examples are commonplace at our Roadshow events, BUT the ones our appraiser Travis Landry discovered in Salt Lake City were something special.
Appraisal - TRAVIS: Usually you see two, three factory-sealed Star Wars figures to get an array of 18. Like this was mind-blowing!
Appraisal - GUEST: Wow.
Appraisal - TRAVIS: It's awesome.
Adam - Narration: Not only that but many of ours had something else going for them.
Appraisal - TRAVIS: These were meant to be on a store peg, right?
Appraisal - GUEST: Mm-hmm. Right.
Appraisal - TRAVIS: That's why seeing so many unpunched
Appraisal - GUEST: oh,
Appraisal - TRAVIS: is like an unbelievable site.
Appraisal - GUEST: Uhhuh.
Appraisal - TRAVIS: When you were laying these out on the table, like bam, bam, bam.
Adam - Narration: These are literally some of the finest Star Wars action figure examples we've ever had on Roadshow, and Travis was not the only person impressed with them.
Adam: Do you know who was working the Green room that day?
Travis Landry: I do, yes. It was Peter Villa, our resident Star Wars fan and collector. So, like anytime we get something, Star Wars, I usually send him a picture and be like, dude, you gotta check this out. This is it. He's like, oh. Gets all excited. It's the best.
Adam: Could you imagine how hard it was for him to work the green room and not talk to that lady and go look at her stuff?
Travis Landry: I know!
Peter Villa: I was dying and so much wanted to go out and watch the recording, but I couldn't do that.
Adam - Narration: That is because here on Antiques Roadshow we run a very tight ship. No giving away the goods before the appraisal. And the green room - where all the guests selected for filming that day gather to wait it out - is full of temptation.
Peter Villa: And I strolled by and said, oh, look at that. and I just stood there and nodded carefully, but was screaming inside.
Adam - Narration: A long time ago in a public media company not so far away, Peter Villa was once a full-time Roadshow employee, and though he moved to another department, he loves the show so much, he still travels with us.
Peter Villa: It's amazing. I am definitely like a relative that married into the family. Then there was a divorce, but yet I still keep coming over for holiday dinners.
Adam: You come to the barbecue every year.
Peter Villa: There's always dessert for me. Always.
Adam: Now. You also have like a hobby, but it's a side hustle.
Peter Villa: I call it an aggressive hobby
Adam: You buy and sell Star Wars toys?
Peter Villa: Yes, I do. Try to limit that to the Kenner toys produced between 1977, 78 to 85.
Adam: Okay.
Peter Villa: That's the original run, now I typically focus on loose. That means not in the box. Because I was a kid of that time, my affinity is toward loose toys in as good condition as you can get. Then there's a whole other level of collecting which is mint on card. Mint in box. That's big, big money.
Adam - Narration: So he doesn't specialize in the examples we had on the show, but I still want to put him to the test. First though...
Adam: I know you've invited me to so many toy shows, and I've always pretended that I had something to do.
Peter Villa: Yeah.
Adam: But now that I have this episode going on, I think I probably have to visit you at a show and see you in action.
Peter Villa: I would, yeah, 'cause it's a whole different me. Can you imagine nerdier than this?
Adam - Narration: An even nerdier version of the Peter I know and love? I gotta see this!
Adam: I'm heading to Wicked Comic-Con at the Seaport District in Boston. I'm 49 years old, and this is my first ever Comic-Con of any sort. I thought I saw Peter. You know what? There's just a million guys that look like Peter here. Uh, hey, that's Peter.
Peter Villa: Hi, this is primarily a comic book and comic art show. I try to do about five to six shows a year.
Adam: What is that thing called that the jet that fought on Hoth. It's a snow speeder Adam, snow speeder.
Adam - Narration: Just listen to the disdain in Peter's voice! He can't believe someone wouldn't know that...
Peter Villa: that's made in 1980.
Adam: Alright. How much is that?
Peter Villa: It's a really good question 'cause it still works.
Adam: Wow.
Peter Villa: These light up.
Adam: That's awesome. So where did you get that?
Peter Villa: I mean. I could tell you it was mine as a kid, but it's not true. I still have mine.
Adam: You still have yours from when you were a kid?
Peter Villa: Of course I do.
Adam: Oh my God. That's amazing. And so what's a snow speeder cost these days?
Peter Villa: I'm this one's gonna be $80.
Adam: Yeah. There are a couple other dudes selling Star Wars.
Peter Villa: Oh yeah. Star Wars. So yeah, there's a guy over there that still has stuff in package.
Adam: So when you see that, you know, you're gonna wind up over there looking at it?
Peter Villa: I try hard not to go over there. Try really hard not to, I do not want spend any money. I only wanna make money.
Adam: You're, you could wind up spending more.
Peter Villa: Oh, it's really bad. I've had shows where I've definitely gone home with more things and less money.
Adam - Narration: For all my resistance, I had a blast watching Peter in action and witnessed a man with his finger on the pulse on the Star Wars market. That's important because of this update from Travis…
Travis Landry: And it's not even like two weeks, I get the email, Hey, my sister and I wanna sell these things. We can't believe what they're worth. So I'm like, of course. Yeah.
Adam - Narration: Which gives me the opportunity to pit my friend, the average toy show slash Comic Con Star Wars toys salesman vs a professional bearded child TV appraiser.
Adam: And so that is today in about an hour. I do make fun of you for being a Star Wars nerd.
Peter Villa: You do it all the time.
Adam: I do. But I do like to pick your brain at the bar, so I wanted to throw these up on screen and you can tell me what the heck I'm looking at and what I might expect.
Peter Villa: I can't even tell you how excited I am right now.
Adam - Narration: That makes two of us! First up...
Appraisal - Travis: Your earliest piece here, the Han Solo issued when Star Wars toys were released in 1978. It's increasing along the top.
Appraisal - Guest: Mm-hmm.
Appraisal - Travis: And there's a crack along the bottom here.
Appraisal - Guest: Oh, okay.
Appraisal - Travis: It's a great entry-level piece
Adam: So, lot number 147. What is this?
Peter Villa: Well, what it's labeled as is 1978 Kenner, Star Wars 12 back Hans Solo, CAS 70, small head variant.
Adam - Narration: The 12 back means that on the back of this sealed figure is a graphic showing all 12 figures which were originally released in 1978. The CAS 70 is the grading, i.e. the numerical score assigned by a 3rd party on the condition. As for the small head variant?
Peter Villa: That's the most important part right there
Appraisal - Travis: He is known as a small head variant.
Peter Villa: The small head variant. This is the first time this action figure was made and it has a small head, like a little pea-sized head on its body.
Appraisal - Travis: Then Kenner Head decided it looked a little strange.
Peter Villa: And then they. Quickly changed it to what's called large head hand, they made the head a little bit bigger.
Adam: The estimate is 500 to 800.
Peter Villa: I think probably right. It certainly should clear 500. It would be cheap if it doesn't. Will it break 800? This is the old Antiques Roadshow line, but it's gonna be worth whatever someone's gonna be willing to pay for it.
Adam - Narration: Peter thinks our Roadshow guest's earliest figure, Han and his small head are fairly priced. The rest of the figures were a bit later.
Appraisal - Travis: We get to 1980. Empire Strikes Back.
Adam - Narration: the 2nd film in the original Star Wars trilogy for the non-nerds out there, but let’s face it, you stopped listening 20 minutes ago
Appraisal - Travis: You have two Yodas, both with clear bubbles, unpunched, no price sticker.
Appraisal - Guest: Mm-hmm.
Appraisal - Travis: I would say conservatively 700 to 1000 each.
Appraisal - Guest: Wow.
Peter Villa: Mm mm, I mean, this is it. I mean, Jedi Master Yoda. He's amazing. He comes complete with a robe robe and he's got a belt that keeps the robe closed, 'cause you don't wanna see what's underneath that. He's got a snake. He's got a walking stick. He's so tiny. He's diminutive, as they say. But powerful.
Adam: Starting at 350, estimate 700 to a thousand.
Peter Villa: This is untouched. It's unpunched. It's a clean one. This is what they want in their Yoda. This is unbelievable. So the estimate at 700 to a thousand? Yeah. All night long, baby. If we're not scratching $900, I don't know what we're doing. If somebody gets this for under $700, you need to call me and tell me where they live.
Adam - Narration: And now we come to Travis’s pick of the bunch. The big hitter.
Appraisal - Travis: In the lore of Star Wars, everybody loves Bounty Hunters. Original Empire strikes back, you see IG 88 in a weird little background seat. You don't see much of him.
Appraisal - Guest: Uh…
Appraisal - Travis: But he's just wicked cool. He's the baddest droid…
Appraisal - Guest: Exactly.
Appraisal - Travis: …in the galaxy IG 88. The best figure here would be 12 to 1800 at auction.
Appraisal - Guest: Oh my gosh. Wow.
Peter Villa: I mean, it's a badass figure. It's really well-sculpted. It's cool as heck. You know, this character had no lines of dialogue, didn't do jack squat, just stood there. And a thousand fan stories were made about it. This is a sought-after figure, especially in this condition. I'm shocked if this doesn't hit 1500 bucks.
Adam: Really? Okay.
Peter Villa: Yeah. I would agree with Travis. This is the one to watch.
Adam: If you're at a toy show, what do you put this like up for sale for?
Peter Villa: Well, first off, I ain't selling it. But if I were to sell it, yeah, I might throw 1800 on it. Just to keep the riff raff away.
Adam: This, this is so great. You know, everything about every one of these stupid plastic toys and it's ridiculous.
Peter Villa: Yeah, I know. It's amazing. I'm married. If you think about it like, fooof.
Adam: You met a girl? That would be with you?!
Peter Villa: That would tolerate this.
Adam - Narration: Ok. Enough joking around. It's time to see how much all these little plastic figures are actually worth.
Peter Villa: Adam, I've been so good. You told me don't go to the auction, don't you look, and that's been painful. So can we just get to the prices?
Adam: You haven't cheated at all.
Peter Villa: You told me not to.
Adam: So, small-head Han, you said maybe up to $800. Definitely $500.
Peter Villa: Oh, without a question.
Travis - Auction Call - Small Head Han: Lot 147 here. We have a 12 back B Han Solo grade 70. Small head variant my bidder here first at 900. Now in the room at 1000. 1100 now his bid. 1200 back in house. 1300. 1400 is bid. 1500. Now back on Landry Pop at 15. Fair warning at 1500. Last call!
Travis Landry: Even being totally roached and beat up, it brought $1500 hammered plus the buyer's premium. You're talking 1,830 bucks all in.
Peter Villa: Shocking. I'm shocked.
Adam: $1,830 with premium.
Peter Villa: Ooh, ouch.
Adam: Right
Peter Villa: Technically, they paid for less plastic, 'cause it's the smaller head.
Adam: Alright. The first Yoda, there were two Yodas in there.
Peter Villa: They were both good.
Adam: This one you said, that has to hit $900. This thing sold for only $700.
Peter Villa: Give me the address. Give me this person’s address.
Adam: $700.
Peter Villa: That's not possible.
Adam: The second Yoda sold for only $500.
Peter Villa: What's happening? Every auction, there's always a buy.
Adam: Yeah, I was-
Peter Villa: Okay. Okay.
Adam: The IG 88. Legends were made of this one, you said this definitely sells for 1.5K, and you at a show would put 1.8 on it. All right.
Peter Villa: Yeah. Yeah.
Adam: Hammer's right at 1.8. You nailed it.
Peter Villa: Woo.
Adam: Nailed it.
Adam - Narration: Peter actually nailed a bunch of them! I'll forgo recapping all 18 results because my boss would rip her ears off her head if she had to listen to it, so let's just say it was an impressive display.
Peter Villa: Not hard. It's like any given Thursday, that's what I do.
Adam: It was like a magician. Well done. I'm impressed.
Adam - Narration: I had actually asked Travis how well he thought Peter would do...
Travis Landry: If I had to guess, he was a little aggressive, and he was high on his value.
Adam: He was spot on on your little robot guy. He nailed a bunch.
Travis Landry: Oh, now Peter's gonna be like, Travis, you don't think I know what I'm talking about, bro. I'm like, no, I'm sorry! Oh man, I take it back! He knew exactly!
Adam - Narration: And luckily for Roadshow, Travis knew exactly as well.
Travis Landry: on the show, I said eight to twelve thousand. It literally hammered right in the median estimate at 9,800. This is like the day dreams are made of, everything fell into place perfectly.
Adam: You get to keep your job.
Travis: Yeah.
Peter Villa: I'm happy for me for being almost like 80% right.
Adam: Generally a good day for Star Wars toys.
Peter Villa: Can I ask you a question that I think everybody wants to know?
Adam: Yeah.
Peter Villa: Was I sufficiently nerdy enough for you on this?
Adam: That was, I mean, my mind is blown. You're my little AI friend that actually knows about Star Wars. It's a very specific gift.
Peter Villa: I'm Chat PJV. You just call up and you ask me very specific Star Wars action figure questions.
Adam - Narration: Antiques Roadshow Detours is a production of GBH in Boston and distributed by PRX. This episode was written and produced by Louise Morris; edited and mixed by Tyler Morrisette; our Assistant Producer is Sarah Roach. Our senior producer is Ian Coss and Devin Maverick Robbins is the managing producer of podcasts for GBH. Marsha Bemko is the Executive Producer of Antiques Roadshow Detours, and I’m your host and co-executive producer, Adam Monahan. Our Theme music is “Once In A Century Storm” by Will Dailey from the album National Throat. Thank you all for listening, have a good one.