Defenders of President Donald Trump have gone past their “no quid pro quo” claim to allege “hearsay” to denounce the testimony of acting ambassador William Taylor that further implicated the president in the growing Ukranian scandal. Also on the defensive, Sen. Lindsey Graham told reporters Thursday that he and Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell will introduce a resolution to condemn the impeachment inquiry. He is urging the House to make the hearings public and allow for cross-examination — something Democrats are reportedly planning to do sometime in November.

To discuss, Jim Braude was joined by Jennifer Taub, a professor at Vermont Law School and a visiting professor at Harvard Law this semester who also serves on the Board of Advisors for the group Impeach Trump Now, and William Weinreb, former acting U.S. Attorney and lead prosecutor of Boston Marathon bomber Dzhokhar Tsarnaev.