Boston is the fourteenth most traffic-congested city in the world and the seventh most in the U.S, according to the transportation analytics company INRIX, with drivers spending around 60 hours in traffic a year, on average. It’s a problem the city knows well, but when it comes to a solution, there is only gridlock on Beacon Hill. Governor Charlie Baker vetoed a pilot program that aims to reduce rush-hour traffic by lowering toll prices by at least 25 percent during off-peak, non-rush hours. So is there any hope left for the proposal? And, if so, is it really the best way to reduce congestion in and around Boston?

Adam Reilly, in for Jim Braude, was joined by Chris Dempsey, director of Transportation for Massachusetts, and Charlie Chieppo, senior fellow at the Pioneer Institute and former policy director for Governor Romney.