As cases of COVID-19 continue to spike throughout the country, governors who once dismissed the pandemic are beginning to take it more seriously. On Wednesday, CNN analyst Juliette Kayyem joined Boston Public Radio to talk about what she called a “tremendous shift" in the attitudes of the American public towards science and public health, and other headlines related to the ongoing COVID-19 pandemic.

Juliette Kayyem is a CNN analyst, former assistant secretary of the Department of Homeland Security, and Faculty Chair of the Homeland Security Program at Harvard University’s Kennedy School of Government.