The impeachment inquiry of President Donald Trump is proceeding apace this week with closed-door testimonies each day from various actors within the Trump administration, including former Europe advisor Fiona Hill yesterday and Ambassador Gordon Sondland on schedule for Thursday. Hill’s testimony yesterday revealed the sharp divisions within the White House this summer over Rudy Giuliani’s shadow agenda in Ukraine, including former National Security Advisor John Bolton’s deepening distrust of Trump's attorney’s activities.

To discuss all this and more, Jim Braude was joined by Jennifer Braceras, a senior fellow with the conservative organization Independent Women’s Forum, and retired federal Judge Nancy Gertner, now a professor at Harvard Law School.