In June, a bipartisan group calling itself the Transition Integrity Project ran a simulation of different ways things might play out if President Donald Trump loses in November and refuses to concede, as he has hinted at in the past. In the end, not a single scenario in the game ended well.

To discuss, Jim Braude was joined by two Transition Integrity Project members: Trey Grayson, former Kentucky secretary of state and director of the Institute of Politics at Harvard's Kennedy School of Government, and David Frum, a former speechwriter for George W. Bush, now a senior editor at The Atlantic and author of two books on how Trump has undermined American democracy.