With DACA under siege, the woman who led its creation as Secretary of Homeland Security, Janet Napolitano, now finds herself leading the charge against her old agency to protect it. In this episode of The SCIF, Juliette speaks with Napolitano, now the president of the University of California, about how the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program was conceived and implemented, and why she chose to sue the federal government on behalf of the UC system after the Trump administration's recent decision to end the program.