It’s a tradition as beloved as holiday trees illuminating the city a Christmas music bed under the din of shoppers, and the rush to count down our vices until a New Year offers a reset button. That would be the Boston Pops holiday concert, which kicked off the season last week at Symphony Hall. 

Conductor Keith Lockhart joined Jim on Tuesday to talk about this year's Holiday Pops, the healing power of music and of course, Donald Trump.

The tradition of the Holiday Pops started in the 1980's, and it's "become a huge holiday tradition," said Lockhart. In his 21st year of the Holiday Pops, Lockhart said "it's a balancing act," between keeping it fresh and keeping with tradition.

Lockhart and the Pops performed a show on the night of the San Bernardino shootings. "The holidays are there not just because we celebrate them but because we need to celebrate them," he said. "At a time that seems to have piling on top of each other, more reasons to mourn, to have one chance to come together and say 'no that's not who we are, there is something better than this,' is the reason we come back to the holidays every year, with more and more fervency."

Lockhart also spoke about the power of music to bring people together. "There's an emotional connectivity in music. There's something that touches us at a real core level."

Lockhart, who met Trump on one occasion, said of him, "eventually I think it's a nightmare we'll wake up from."

On the great Christmas tree debate, should you buy a real tree or a fake tree, Lockhart adamantly sided with real. "Absolutely real."

You can catch the Holiday Pops now through December 24th. There are still some tickets left. They also have a special New Year’s Eve Concert, and you can find more information online, at