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>> HINOJOSA: She took the world
by storm when at age 17 she was
cast as the lead of the hit
musical Miss Saigon.
Since then she's won a Tony and
provided the singing voices for
the princesses in Disney's
Aladdin and Mulan.
Celebrated international singer
and actress Lea Salonga.
I'm Maria Hinijosa.
This is One on One.
Lea Salonga, the star of Miss
Saigon.
>> SALONGA: Hi.
>> HINOJOSA: Thank you for
coming.
>> SALONGA: Sure, absolutely.
>> HINOJOSA: So a lot of people
know you as this amazing star.
You had the lead role in Miss
Saigon, playing Kim in the
original production out of
London, and then in New York.
>> SALONGA: Right.
>> HINOJOSA: But probably people
don't know that you... even
before you got to Miss Saigon,
you were a pretty big star in
Manila.
You had... like, you had
recorded records, you had been
in The King and I, you had
been...
>> SALONGA: I'd done some film and some
TV, and yeah.
I grew up, I think, pretty much
in the eyes of many Filipinos.
A lot of them have seem me from
when I was really little doing,
you know, musical theater, and
then eventually doing TV and
then doing film and doing
records.
Back then we were doing records.
>> HINOJOSA: Yeah.
>> SALONGA: Yeah, and people pretty much
saw me grow up... I grew up in
the public eye.
So in the Phillipines it's like,
"Oh, I remember seeing you when
you were nine in Annie."
You know, and so yeah, it was a
life that not a lot of people in
the US or in London were aware
of at the time that I was doing
Miss Saigon.
>> HINOJOSA: So then you hear
about... this was 1989.
>> SALONGA: Mm-hmm.
>> HINOJOSA: And what, does your
agent say, "Look, they're going
to start casting for this show
called Miss Saigon"?
What did you know about it?
>> SALONGA: Well, actually, the auditions
were in 1988, a year earlier.
And I was in the Phillipines.
I was in college.
I was a premed major.
I was a biology major in
college.
And there was a singer's union
in the Phillipines called OPM.
And the president of the union
called my mother and said that
there were these auditions
coming up for this show which
was going to open in London.
And so my mom was really
skeptical.
>> HINOJOSA: Because your mom
plays a major role in your life.
>> SALONGA: Yes.
You know, she manages me when...
you know, in the Phillipines.
And of course she's a mom, so
her instincts were like, "I
don't know about these people,
because what if they're these
fly-by-night producer types that
take advantage of these young
girls and then leave the country
and whatnot?"
And it happens in the
Phillipines.
So my mom was a little hesitant
to let me audition.
And then the president of the
union said, "No, no, no, no, no.
These guys are the real thing.
They produced Cats and Les
Miserables and Phantom of the
Opera, and there's nothing that
you need to worry about."
>> HINOJOSA: And you were
thinking...
>> SALONGA: I was 17, and I'm thinking,
"I've just planned 13 years of
my life, for college and med
school and all that."
And in my head...
>> HINOJOSA: So you were kind of
done with the...
>> SALONGA: Not so much that I was done.
I mean, I knew that I was
probably always going to be
singing, but certainly not as
actively as I was up until that
point, because academics came
first for me.
So I said, "Okay, why not?
I don't have the job yet.
Why not audition, give it a try,
and then if I do get it, then
we'll think about what to do
next."
>> HINOJOSA: And they came to
Manila?
>> SALONGA: They came to Manila.
They actually started searching
in London.
Then they went to New York, Los
Angeles, Honolulu.
And then when they landed in
Manila they flew, I think, a
couple of people out of Hong
Kong to see the producers.
>> HINOJOSA: And is that...
like, that kind if international
search, is that common?
>> SALONGA: I think it depends.
I think if they're able to find
somebody in the city that
they're first looking, then I
don't think that they would have
needed to go all the way to the
Phillipines to search for the
lead of this particular show.
>> HINOJOSA: And did you know at
that point... did you know at
that point that there had been,
like, a search, that they had
auditioned...
>> SALONGA: No.
I was not aware of how
exhaustive the seach had been
previous to their arrival in
Manila.
I had no idea.
It's probably better that I
didn't have any idea, that I
didn't really have the bigger
picture of who these people
were.
And I knew that they had created
Les Miserables, and that
Cameron had produced all these
other shows, but it didn't
really occur to me, and I really
had no idea, how big of a
deal these shows actually were.
>> HINOJOSA: Because you hadn't
been to Broadway in New York.
>> SALONGA: I had never been to New York,
and the last time I was in
London I was maybe 11 or 12, and
I had seen Evita.
But still, you know, it didn't
dawn on me that there were
mulitimillion dollar productions
in London and in New York.
And...
>> HINOJOSA: And you walk in...
>> SALONGA: We knew what Broadway kind of
was.
But it still didn't occur to me
how huge it actually was.
And I'm really grateful that it
didn't really hit me at the
audition.
>> HINOJOSA: So you go into this
audition...
>> SALONGA: But yeah, so I go into the
audition, I'm prepared.
I had prepared "On My Own" from
Les Mis.
I figured, "I'll do also also a
Boublil and Schonberg song, just
because Boublil and Schonberg
are in front of me," right?
And after I was done, they asked
for another song.
And I hadn't prepared another
song.
So...
>> HINOJOSA: And did you think
you had done well?
>> SALONGA: I think I had done well
enough for them to actually ask
for more than just one number.
So I said, "Well, I do have
another song.
It's 'The Greatest Love of All'
by Whitney Houston."
And so I went up to the piano,
and I asked the pianist if he
knew the song.
But I think before I even
finished the question I saw on
top of the piano somebody had
left behind "The Greatest Love
of All," on top of the piano.
And so I told the pianist, "Can
you just play this for me?"
And he did, and I was praying
while I was standing on the X on
the floor, "Please let it be in
my key, please let it be in my
key."
>> HINOJOSA: Because you can't
ask?
>> SALONGA: And it was.
>> HINOJOSA: You can't say, "I
need it to be in
such-and-such..."
>> SALONGA: At the time I don't think I
was as knowledgable with regards
to "I need this in the key of
B-flat, please."
And he played it, and I'm like,
"Yes!
This was meant to be."
And so I sang it, and they asked
me a few questions at the
audition, like, you know, "What
is the biggest audience that
you've ever performed for?
What size?"
And I'm like, "Well, I just
finished doing the opening act
for Stevie Wonder, and there
were at least 10,000 people
there.
I don't know, it was dark, or
whatever."
And they were all just laughing
at me.
I'm like, "Why are they laughing
at me?"
>> HINOJOSA: And you had also
opened for Menudo, right?
>> SALONGA: Yes, I did.
>> HINOJOSA: Menudo in Manila.
>> SALONGA: Yeah, they were huge.
>> SALONGA: MING: And you were the
opening act.
>> SALONGA: They were huge.
Everybody my age and maybe a few
years older or younger will
remember who they are.
That's, like, the original boy
band.
And they were huge, so huge.
And they were beautiful, and so
nice.
>> HINOJOSA: So you met Ricky
Martin?
>> SALONGA: Of course I got to meet Ricky
Martin.
And I remember him being
really... just really sweet and
adorable.
He grew up to be really
handsome, and he was really,
really great looking even back
then, when he was, like, 13.
>> HINOJOSA: Did these guys
know, kind of, when they saw
you, who you were, and the fact
that you had this background, or
did they just think, "Wow, we
have just discovered, like, an
amazing talent here."
>> HINOJOSA: At the time I don't
think they really knew how
experienced I was and how
trained I was.
Until I gave them my resume,
which was probably ten pages
long.
It's like, "Here, this is what
I've done."
>> HINOJOSA: And then at that
point, how much time between
that audition to the time that
they actually offered you the
lead as Kim?
>> SALONGA: Well, the audition was, I
think, sometime in November.
And then a little bit after
that, they brought me over to
London for what they called
final assessments.
So I was actually onstage at the
theater on Drury Lane.
And 42nd Street was playing at
the time, so I was on that
stage.
And I got to sing, and I got to
meet the guy who eventually
became my leading man in the
show, as well as one other cast
member who, on the spot, was
offered the role right there.
So I got to see that, and his
excitement and everything.
And so that was exciting for me
to be able to witness that.
So it was incredibly exciting
heading over there.
And so after final assessments,
I think on the last day, they
took us for, like, a photo
shoot.
And I'm like, "What is
this for?
I don't know what this
is for."
And I think at the time
they hadn't made their final
decisions as to what my casting
situation was going to be.
>> HINOJOSA: Did you want it?
Were you like, "Oh, my God..."
>> SALONGA: Actually, you know what?
No.
It's not that I didn't want it,
but I didn't want it, I think,
as badly as I would have wanted
it it if I had auditioned maybe
five years later, when I was a
little more aware of who these
people were, or if I was an
actor in New York City.
So I didn't really want it that
badly.
And maybe that aloofness worked
in my favor.
And, you know, it kept the
nerves at bay, I think.
>> HINOJOSA: And then when they
finally said to you...
>> SALONGA: And I actually found out by
looking at my picture on the
cover of a Sunday magazine in
the UK.
>> HINOJOSA: You're kidding!
>> SALONGA: Somebody sent me a copy of
this magazine of the Daily Mail.
It's called You, y-o-u.
And I think... I don't know if
we got a phone call or what, but
somebody said, "You are on the
cover of the Sunday magazine
called You.
You're on the cover."
And I'm like, "What?"
And there was a huge article in
the magazine regarding the
search, and how they found me
and everything.
>> HINOJOSA: But you still
didn't know!
>> SALONGA: "What?"
I think up until then it was
like "You are definitely cast in
the show, but we're not sure
what's happening."
>> HINOJOSA: Oh, my God.
>> SALONGA: So I was like, "Okay,
whatever."
"Okay, whatever" was my
response."
>> HINOJOSA: You do the show in
London for about two years.
>> SALONGA: I did it for a year and three
months.
>> HINOJOSA: Year and three
months.
>> SALONGA: And then I headed to Manila
to spend the holidays, and I had
concerts in the Phillipines.
And I was in Manila for about a
month, a month and a half, when
I got the call that I was going
to Broadway.
>> HINOJOSA: Now, the thing
about Miss Saigon on Broadway is
that it was incredibly
controversial.
>> SALONGA: Mm-hmm.
>> HINOJOSA: I mean, a lot of
people, if they haven't seen
Miss Saigon, what they know is
Miss Saigon, controversy.
The controversy was around the
casting of Jonathan Pryce to
play the lead...
>> SALONGA: Yeah, we were feeling the
controversy in London too,
because he and I were both still
in the show as it was running in
the UK.
We were both still in the
original company.
I think when the casting
announcement was made, there was
a big uproar in New York City.
And Cameron then said that he
was going to cancel the show if
he wasn't cast.
>> HINOJOSA: Just so people
remember, so the uproar was
about the fact that they were
casting...
>> SALONGA: A Caucasian actor to play a
Eurasian part.
>> HINOJOSA: And then in terms
of your controversy...
>> SALONGA: In terms of my controversy it
was kind of the opposite,
because it was an Asian part,
and I was an Asian actor, but I
wasn't an American citizen.
>> HINOJOSA: And they tried
to...
>> SALONGA: So I was... yeah.
So there was actually
arbitration that went...
>> HINOJOSA: It's amazing.
People kind of forget, but you
were actually... you were... the
fact that you weren't an
American citizen was questioned.
>> SALONGA: It was questioned.
>> HINOJOSA: The fact that, were
you enough of an international
star to merit the role?
>> SALONGA: Right.
>> HINOJOSA: I mean, that must
have just... what were you
thinking?
Here you are, 19 years old, and
you're thinking, "Wait a second.
I just want to act or sing."
And you've got...
>> SALONGA: Well, I mean, I was... I'm a
very pragmatic person.
And Cameron was very, you know,
upfront about the entire
process.
He was like, "We have just been
through this with Jonathan.
We don't know if we're going to
be successful in bringing you
over."
And I told him... he called me
in for a meeting in his office,
and I'm like, "You know what?
For everything that you've done
for me up until this point I am
extremely grateful."
So I was already making plans to
stay in the UK, to start drama
school in the UK, because the
drama schools over there are
really good.
So I was really kind of moving
on with my life, moving forward,
regardless of whatever was going
to happen.
I was not going to put all my
eggs in the Broadway basket, you
know?
>> HINOJOSA: You ultimately
did... they did...
>> SALONGA: Yeah.
>> HINOJOSA: I guess it was
Actor's Equity that basically
had to make a decision to allow
you to perform.
>> SALONGA: Right.
>> HINOJOSA: But opening night
there were picketers, there were
protestors.
>> SALONGA: There were picketers
throughout previews, too.
I mean, during one of the
preview performances there were
picketers that came into the
balcony.
And so we were doing this... we
were onstage already, we were
doing a preview performance.
And then we just hear this
screaming in the balcony.
And I'm thinking... I'm looking
up going, "What's going on up
there?
We're trying to do a show," you
know?
"Are you going to give us a
little respect?"
>> HINOJOSA: People were also
very upset about the fact that
Miss Saigon... you know, the
terms that would be used now
would be to say well, it was a
show that was looking at the
forced trafficking of women in
Vietnam who were forced to
become sexual objects against
their will.
And you know, this whole drama
is made around them, and there's
a love story.
But do you think that...
>> SALONGA: The show would exist today?
I don't know.
I think it would have been... I
think it would have still been
able to exist, because then it
would really shine a light on
how ugly this kind of situation
is.
And, you know, a lot of the
protest at the time was, "You're
denigrating women, you're making
them out..." but we have to
think of it in context.
This is 1975.
We're not portraying women as
they are in 1991, which was when
the show opened on Broadway.
This is 1975, and everything is
pretty much going to hell in
Saigon.
And everybody's pretty much
grasping... and, you know,
there's an expression in the
Phillipines where we say
(speaking tagalog), which
literally translated is "You are
hanging onto the blade of a
knife to survive."
And... which means that you'll
basically do whatever you need
to, and do anything, no matter
how denigrating or terrible,
just to survive.
And so within the dialogue of
the show, a lot of the ad libs
were, "GI, get me out, please
get me a visa, get me a
passport, please..."
>> HINOJOSA: Because this is
when the United States is
pulling out of Saigon.
>> SALONGA: Exactly.
And so the GIs just really want
to be there for the sex.
And they know they're all
getting out.
And the women are trying to hook
themselves onto one of these men
to get out of what they know
will be a very terrible
situation once the Americans are
gone and the communists take
over.
>> HINOJOSA: When you stand back
now and you look at the
experience of what happened, the
controversy around Miss Saigon,
do you think that things have
gotten better for Asian actors?
>> SALONGA: I'd like to think so.
I'd like to think so, that
there's certainly more Asian
actors who are working actively
in shows, that blind casting
does exist.
>> HINOJOSA: So blind casting,
basically...
>> SALONGA: It's like it doesn't matter
if you're whatever race.
I've you've got the goods, then
you get cast.
>> HINOJOSA: Do you think it
really... blind casting really
exists?
>> SALONGA: It can exist.
>> HINOJOSA: It can, but not
across the board.
>> SALONGA: Not across the board.
For example, have you seen Billy
Elliot, for example?
Blind casting must exist for
that role, for that lead role,
because it's so hard to find a
boy who can do all those things,
having that skill set.
And to restrict it to a certain
ethnic group is... you know,
you're just basically centering
on, "Okay, he has to be white to
play this role," when there are
so many other talented kids who
could very well do it.
So I think they open that role
to whomever could play it
realistically.
And no one even looks twice.
>> HINOJOSA: So there's been
progress made.
>> SALONGA: I'd like to think so.
I'd like to think so.
I mean, the last production on
Broadway that I was in was Les
Mis.
And the first first production
you pretty much had to be pasty
white to be in the show,.
I went into the show and...
>> HINOJOSA: Did you have to
audition for that as well?
>> SALONGA: No, I didn't have to.
>> HINOJOSA: They just... a
phone call?
>> SALONGA: They just said, "Do you want
to do it"
I'm like, "Sure, I'd love to
play Eponine."
>> HINOJOSA: Wow.
>> SALONGA: And then when they asked me
to play Fantine for the revival,
I went in to replace Daphne
Rubin Vega.
So it's like, "I'm replacing
another..."
>> HINOJOSA: She's Dominican,
yeah, Latina.
>> SALONGA: So the cast actually was made
up of... we had a black Javert,
there was... the cast was just
so diverse, it was crazy
diverse.
But it never centered on just
how diverse everyone was.
It was just, "Here's a story,
and these are the people that we
have chosen to tell the story
and to tell it well."
>> HINOJOSA: Do you think that
now there are more Asian
American producers who are
saying, "Okay, I need to
step..." I mean, what about you?
Couldn't you produce?
>> SALONGA: Well, I actually just did a
reading in New York City
yesterday, and it's a show
called Allegiance.
And the subject matter of the
show is Japanese internment in
World War II.
So the cast... I mean, it's...
obviously this is not open to
blind casting, because you have
to be Asians to play Japanese,
and there has to be either white
or black to play the Americans.
And so it's very specific.
>> HINOJOSA: Are you going to
get the role?
>> SALONGA: I read for... I was playing
the lead in the thing.
So hopefully I continue on with
the process of developing the
show.
And it's currently in consistent
development.
And I did a reading in LA last
year, and we did the reading in
New York City.
And this is a show where the
Asians and the Asian Americans
in the show are not necessarily
portrayed as villains.
There are villains... there's
the good guys, and there's the
villains.
Or what is perceived as the
villain.
Because stereotypically a lot of
Asian actors in a lot of
American shows would be maybe
the triad leaders, or gang
leaders, or what.
But with this, the romantic lead
is Asian, the romantic lead, the
leading lady is Asian, and
George Takai is the lead guy.
>> HINOJOSA: What I love is the
fact that you are here, this
international star.
Because your music, you've,
like, what, gone multiplatinum
on who knows how many records?
But you still have to go in
sometimes and read for a part.
>> SALONGA: Yeah.
>> HINOJOSA: Right?
>> SALONGA: Absolutely.
>> HINOJOSA: You still have to
do that.
And people might not know this,
because, you know...
>> SALONGA: I still have to audition.
>> HINOJOSA: ...people don't
necessar... I always watch all
of the credits on everything,
especially because I have kids.
Whenever I go see anything
animated I want to see who did
the voices.
>> SALONGA: Right.
>> HINOJOSA: You did the singing
voice for...
>> SALONGA: For Princess Jasmine and for
Mulan, yeah.
>> HINOJOSA: In Aladdin, and
then Mulan.
>> SALONGA: Yeah.
>> HINOJOSA: What was...
>> SALONGA: It still freaks kids out.
I actually went to visit one of
my friends in Billy Elliot.
So one of the kids who played
Billy, who I had seen in the
show, he said, "Hi," because I
had met him a couple days before
when he played the role.
And I've got a Tony award, I've
got all of these credits.
And so he asked me, "So what do
you do?"
And so I listed my Broadway
credits.
"I've done Les Miserables, and I
did Miss Saigon, and I won a
Tony award for it."
It just... eyes glazed over, and
right over the head.
He's like, "What else have you
done?"
Very seriously, looking at me.
So I lookd at my friend, who I
had worked with in Les Mis.
And we're looking at each other,
it was like, "Well, I did the
voices of Princess Jasmine in
Aladdin and Mulan."
I got the biggest freakout that
I've ever seen.
>> HINOJOSA: You mean he started
jumping up and down like...
>> SALONGA: "No way!"
And I'm like... it's amazing
what pop culture and film
will... you know, how it
influences kids.
>> HINOJOSA: So...
>> SALONGA: It's just so... it was just
so funny.
It made my night.
It really, really did.
>> HINOJOSA: What are you
thinking about what comes next?
I mean, do you think, "Look, I
could be producing, I could be
directing, I could..." I mean,
what's your dream?
>> SALONGA: For me, I kind of want to
coach, to teach, and to do
one-on-one coaching with people.
I've done it for a couple of
people back home in the
Phillipines, and I found that to
be extremely rewarding, because
in a very strange way it keeps
fueling my own desires to
perform.
When I'm able to see somebody
that I've kind of helped along
onstage, you know, "Oh, yes, I
remember teaching that person
that, I remember teaching this
person this," and then, "Yes,
that dance step is looking
great, yes, that's looking
great," it makes me feel really
good, and it makes me want to
get back up there again.
>> HINOJOSA: And obviously
doesn't feel like any kind of
competitive issue for you?
>> SALONGA: No, not at all.
I mean, the more... back home,
of course, we say, "The more,
the manyer."
And the more the merrier, truly.
And, you know, the more
performers that we are able to
encourage to love the theater
and love doing musical theater,
it's best for... it's great for
everybody, you know?
I'm not selfish with my gifts
and with what I've done and what
I may be able to impart to
somebody else.
Because, you know, I've got to
pay it forward and pass it
along, because I've had some
really wonderful teachers to
whom I will always and forever
be grateful.
So to be able to do that for
someone else, you know, is
pretty fantastic.
And I had a great time.
>> HINOJOSA: All right, so tell
us the one role that you're
saying, "Wow, if I really could
just get that role..."
>> SALONGA: Right.
>> HINOJOSA: What would be that
role?
>> SALONGA: There are actually a couple.
>> HINOJOSA: Okay.
Well, we've got one minute, so
tell us.
>> SALONGA: I'd love to do Eva Peron in
Evita.
I'd love to play Elphaba in
Wicked.
And I'm actually going to get to
play a dream role, not my own
dream role, but a dream role of
a lot of people.
I'm getting to play Grizibella
in Cats in July in the
Philippines.
So I'm looking forward to that,
too.
>> HINOJOSA: Wow.
All right, well, Lea Salonga,
congratulations, and we'll look
out for you.
Thanks so much.
>> SALONGA: Thank you so much.
&
you
asking as little as you can
&
I know I'd give my life
for you
&
you
&
of war or pain
&
you're not hurt again
&
for you
&
beyond all fear
&
that brought you here
&
when the stars burned like new
I knew what I must do
&
a million things I'll never own
&
a world to conquer
when you're grown
&
you
&
whatever heaven grants
&
can have your chance
&
for you
&
reaching for him
&
brush my head
&
on my bed
&
was he a lie
that made my body laugh and cry
&
his little one
&
bring him to me
&
you
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heaven grants
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can have your chance
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for you
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what I must do
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I'll give my life for you. &
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