>> Rooney: TONIGHT ON "GREATER
BOSTON."
LAUDED FOR HIS LEADERSHIP.
HOSPITAL CHIEF, PAUL LEVY SPEAKS
OUT ABOUT WHAT HE CALLS THE
WORST MISS TAKE OF HIS LIFE.
WHILE PROSECUTORS SAY ADAM
WHEELER CONNED HIS WAY INTO
HARVARD.
NOW HE FACES JAIL TIME.
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>> Rooney: GOOD EVENING.
BETH ISRAEL DECON ES C.E.O. PAUL
LEVY HAS ADMITTED TO HAVING AN
INAPPROPRIATE RELATIONSHIP WITH
A FEMALE SUBORDINATE.
HE HAS APOLOGIZED AND THE
HOSPITAL'S BOARD OF DIRECTORS
HAS GIVEN HIM A VOTE OF
CONFIDENCE WHILE AT THE SAME
TIME FINING HIM $50,000.
THE BOARD HAS ALSO ASKED THE
ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE TO
LOOK INTO THE MATTER.
AFTER WEEKS OF SILENCE, PAUL
LEVY IS NOW SPEAKING OUT AND HE
JOINS ME, WELCOME, PAUL.
>> THANK YOU.
>> FIRST OF ALL, YOU HAVE
APOLOGIZED.
YOU WERE FINED.
WHAT ARE YOU APOLOGIZING FOR AND
WHAT WAS THE FINE FOR?
>> WELL, I EXERCISED BAD
JUDGMENT IN HIRING A CLOSE
PERSONAL FRIEND AT THE HOSPITAL,
BEING IN A SUPERVISORY
RELATIONSHIP WITH HER FOR A
PORTION OF THE TIME OF THE EIGHT
YEARS THAT SHE WORKED IN THE
HOSPITAL.
I SUPERVISED HER FOR ABOUT TWO
YEARS OR SO.
AND NOT UNDERSTANDING FULLY THE
RAMIFICATIONS OF THAT FOR PEOPLE
WHO WORKED IN THE PLACE.
PEOPLE WHO WOULD FEEL RESENTMENT
OR THAT SHE MIGHT BE GETTING
SPECIAL TREATMENT, OR OTHERWISE
DISTRACTING FOLKS.
AND NOT REALLY UNDERSTANDING
THAT MY PERSONAL LIFE AND MY
PROFESSIONAL LIFE WERE NO LONGER
SEPARATE.
>> Rooney: IF THE BOARD KNEW
ABOUT THIS, AND THEY HAVE
ADMITTED THAT THEY DID FOR QUITE
SOME TIME, WHY DID THEY FINE YOU
NOW?
>> THE ISSUE REALLY CAME UP IN
THE LAST SEVERAL WEEKS AS A
RESULT OF AN ANONYMOUS LETTER
THAT THE BOARD RECEIVED.
I THINK THEY FELT THEY NEEDED TO
LOOK INTO IT.
THEY INTERVIEWED ME.
THEY INTERVIEWED LOTS OF PEOPLE
AROUND THE PLACE, AND IT JUST
BECAME RIPE IN THAT WAY.
I THINK THAT YOU KNOW FOR THE
PREVIOUS EIGHT YEARS, THE BOARD
WAS BUSY WITH OTHER MATTERS.
THE HOSPITAL WAS PRACTICALLY
BANKRUPT WHEN I ARRIVED IN 2002.
THE FOCUS OF ME AND THE BOARD
WAS ON FIXING THE HOSPITAL,
PUTTING IT IN GOOD SHAPE.
AND SO, ALTHOUGH SOME OF THEM
MAY HAVE HAD CONCERNS ABOUT THIS
DURING THE COURSE OF THE EIGHT
YEARS, RELATIVE TO --
>> Rooney: WHICH THEY EXPRESSED
TO YOU.
>> A FEW OF THEM DID, YES.
AND THAT WAS MY OTHER MISTAKE
WAS REALLY NOT TAKING -- GET
BEING -- ACTING ON THAT.
BUT I THINK IT'S FAIR TO SAY
THAT THE BOARD WAS FOCUSED ON
SAVING THE HOSPITAL.
>> Rooney: WHICH THEY CREDIT YOU
WITH, YOU HAVE A TREMENDOUS
NUMBER OF SUPPORTERS THERE.
>> I CREDIT THEM ALSO.
THEY WERE ENGAGED.
>> Rooney: THIS ANONYMOUS
LETTER.
THE DETAILS HAVE NOT EMERGED BUT
AS I UNDERSTAND IT NOW, THERE
WERE THREE THINGS THEY ACCUSED
YOU OF IN THE LETTER.
ONE THEY ACCUSED YOU -- SOME OF
IT WAS WHACKY AND STOCHL WAS
SEXIST AND RACIST AND EVERYTHING
ELSE.
SOME OF IT WAS -- YOU KNOW,
ACCURATE.
THEY ACCUSED YOU OF
HAVING -- THAT YOUR
BROTHER-IN-LAW WAS THE COO.
THAT'S INACCURATE.
>> ABSOLUTELY.
>>.
>> Rooney: ACCUSED OF HAVING A
RELATIONSHIP WITH SOMEBODY IN
THE DEVELOPMENT OFFICE AND
CALLED HER GOLDILOCKS.
WHICH YOU NAMED AND THEY ACCUSED
YOU OF HAVING A RELATIONSHIP
WITH THIS WOMAN AND THEY A
PARAGRAPH DEFINING FORNICATION
AND IT WAS A GRAPHIC JUVENILE,
MAYBE INTENTIONALLY SO TO PUT
YOU OFF AND IT CAME FROM THE
OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENT OF THE
HOSPITAL, WHICH OBVIOUSLY DIDN'T
-- BECAUSE THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN
YOU.
DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA WHO WROTE
THIS LETTER?
>> I HAVE NO IDEA.
IT WAS A NASTY, RACIST LETTER.
IT WAS A TERRIBLE PIECE OF WORK.
WHAT STARTED TO HAPPEN, THOUGH,
IS THE LETTER -- ORDINARILY,
WOULD YOU JUST IGNORE A LETTER
LIKE THAT, RIGHT?
AN ANONYMOUS LETTER.
BUT IT STARTED GETTING
CIRCULATED AROUND TOWN AMONG THE
MEDIA, AMONG OTHER PEOPLE.
THE BOARD HAD CONCERN THAT THERE
MIGHT BE ELEMENTS OF TRUTH IN
IT.
THEY FELT THEY HAD AN OBLIGATION
TO REVIEW THE MATTER.
>> Rooney: DID THEY LOOK INTO
THE OTHER MATTER -- THE MATTER
REGARDING THE OTHER WOMAN IN THE
DEVELOPMENT OFFICE?
>> YES.
>> Rooney: AND DOFFED?
>> NOTHING.
>> THAT TO WAS NOT AN
INAPPROPRIATE RELATIONSHIP.
>> THAT WAS NOT VALID.
CERTAINLY, I HAD NOT HIRED MY
BROTHER-IN-LAW.
AND SO, THE BOARD ENGAGED
OUTSIDE COUNSEL TO CONDUCT AN
INVESTIGATION.
THEY INTERVIEWED ME.
THEY INTERVIEWED LOTS OF PEOPLE.
I ACTUALLY DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING
TO HIDE IN REVIEW, BECAUSE THEY
ASKED ME ABOUT MY FRIENDSHIP AND
I SAID, WELL, YES, I HIRED A
CLOSE PERSONAL FRIEND, MADE NO
SECRET ABOUT IT BY THE WAY AND
PEOPLE HAVE SEEN US ALL OVER
TOWN AND DEPARTMENT TRY TO HIDE
THAT IN ANY WAY.
AND I SAID TO THE BOARD, I MADE
AN ERROR OF JUDGMENT HERE.
I SHOULD NOT HAVE HIRED HER, AND
I SHOULD HAVE BEEN MORE
COGNIZANT OF THE FACT THAT IT
COULD HAVE DELETERIOUS EFFECT ON
HOW PEOPLE IN THE HOSPITAL
REGARDED ME, REGARDED HER,
REGARDED THEIR OWN PHYSICIAN AND
THE LIKE, AND I SAID THAT WAS A
MISTAKE.
>> Rooney: YOU WERE HER
SUPERVISOR AT M.I.T. WHEN YOU
MET HER.
>> NO, AT M.I.T., SHE WAS A
STUDENT.
>> Rooney: YOU WERE HER THESIS
SUPERVISOR, OR WAS THAT LATER.
>> THAT WAS LATER, I HAD
ACTUALLY LEFT M.I.T. AND I
HELPED SUPERVISE HER THESIS AND
SHE HAD GOTTEN ANOTHER JOB OUT
OF COLLEGE AND WHEN I GOT TO THE
HOSPITAL, I SAID TO HER, WHY
DON'T YOU COME OVER AND JOIN ME
AT THE HOSPITAL.
IT'S GOING TO BE REALLY
INTERESTING.
YOU'RE GOING TO LEARN A LOT.
I THINK YOU'RE REALLY QUALIFIED
FOR THE KIND OF WORK WE NEED,
BECAUSE SHE HAS GOT A REALLY
STRONG --
>> Rooney: SHE IS DESCRIBED AS
BRILL YAPT AND INTELLECTUAL.
>> THREE DEGREES FROM M.I.T.
>> Rooney: STAYING ON THE M.I.T.
TRACK FOR A MOMENT.
YOU WORKED WITH HER THERE AS A
SUPERVISOR.
SHE WAS WORKING ON A HAITI
PROJECT, AND YOU WERE HER --
>> NO, I -- I WAS NOT HER
SUPERVISOR AT M.I.T.
>> Rooney: YOU WERE HER ADVISER.
>> SHY WAS HER ADVISER DURING
THE UNDERGRADUATE YEARS.
>> Rooney: HAD THE RELATIONSHIP
STARTED WHEN YOU WERE AT M.I.T.
>> WE HAVE BEEN FRIENDS FOR OVER
15 YEARS.
WE HAVE BEEN FAMILY FRIENDS FOR
15 YEARS.
>> Rooney: SO NOW SHE IS BACK AT
M.I.T.?
>> CORRECT.
>> Rooney: YOU THIS WEEK
RESIGNED FROM THE AUDIT BOARD AS
THE DIRECT RELATIONSHIP.
>> I REALIZED IN THE LAST
SEVERAL DAYS THERE MIGHT BE
QUESTIONS RAISED ABOUT THAT.
SO I THOUGHT IT WAS PRUDENT TO
RESIGN FROM THE AUDIT COMMITTEE
BECAUSE THE AUDIT COMMITTEE HAS
SPECIAL SUPERVISORY OBLIGATION
AS PART OF THE M.I.T.
>> WE'LL ASK YOU IF YOU FEEL
THIS EPISODE HAS SPILLED INTO
YOUR RELATIONSHIP WITH M.I.T.
NOW?
>> I HOPE NOT.
I'M VERY LOYAL TO M.I.T. AND
THEY HAVE ALWAYS BEEN VERY LOYAL
TO ME AND A STRONG SUPPORTER OF
M.I.T.
>> Rooney: WELL, YOU WENT THERE
AND YOU HAVE BEEN INVOLVED WITH
THEM OF SINCE.
>> THAT'S RIGHT.
>> Rooney: IN TERMS OF THE
FIDUCIARY ISSUES.
THE WOMAN WORKED IN THE HOSPITAL
DOWNTOWN FOR A WHILE AND WENT TO
THE NEEDHAM BRANCH.
>> RIGHT.
>> Rooney: DID YOU ASK THEM TO
MOVE HER THERE?
>> NO, THE PRESIDENT OF THE
NEEDHAM HOSPITAL, JEFF LIEBMAN
ACTUALLY ASKED MERE IF HE COULD
HAVE HER ASSIGNED TO THE NEATHAM
HOSPITAL.
HE WAS AT THE TIME PLANNING A
NEW ADDITION TO THE HOSPITAL, TO
EXPAND IT, AND SHE HAS A GOOD
BACKGROUND IN THESE KINDS OF
PLANNING ISSUES AND OTHER ISSUES
AS WELL.
AND SO, I STOPPED SUPERVISING
HER AT THAT POINT AND BY ALL
ACCOUNTS SHE GOT VERY GOOD
REVIEWS.
>> Rooney: THAT'S TRUE.
SHE LASS GOTTEN VERY GOOD
REVIEWS FOR THE WORK SHE DID
THERE.
WHOSE IDEA WAS IT TO TERMINATE
HER THERE.
>> WELL, WHAT HAPPENED WAS IN
THE FALL, I FINALLY STARTED TO
HAVING CONCERNS.
>> Rooney: THIS PAST FALL?
>> YES.
IN OCTOBER, OR SO.
I STARTED TO GETTING IT.
I STARTED TO FINALLY HAVING
CONCERNS THAT WELL, MAYBE THIS
WASN'T SUCH A GOOD IDEA.
FOR HER TO CONTINUE TO WORK IN
OUR HOSPITAL SYSTEM.
SO, I CALLED HER AND JEFF.
WE GOT ON THE PHONE AT THE SAME
TIME, AND I EXPRESSED MY
CONCERNS, AND SHE AGREED, JEFF
AGREED, AND THEN JEFF SAID THAT
HE HAD BEEN THINKING OF
ELIMINATING THE POSITION ANYWAY,
BECAUSE THE PROJECT ON WHICH SHE
HAD BEEN WORKING, THE ADDITION,
THE EXPANSION, WAS ENDING.
AND I SAID, WELL, THAT SOUNDS
LIKE A GOOD SOLUTION.
>> Rooney: HEE OBVIOUSLY AGREED
TO THAT, TOO.
>> YEAH, SHE TOTALLY CONCURRED.
>> Rooney: THE $30,000
SEVERANCE.
SHE WAS MAKING $100 YOU THIS
THOUSAND.
WAS THAT A NORMAL AMOUNT.
>> WAYS NOT INVOLVED IN
DETERMINING THE SEVERANCE.
WHEN A POSITION IS ELIMINATED
THERE'S A STANDARD PRACTICE FOR
PAYING SEVERANCE.
THERE'S AN OFFSET, SO IF YOU GET
ANOTHER JOB, THE SEARCH RENS PAY
IS REDUCED BY THE NEW SALARY
THAT YOU ARE GETTING.
SHE DIDN'T COLLECTLE FULL
SEVERANCE.
THAT WAS ESSENTIALLY THE --
>> Rooney: THE DETAILS OF THIS
ASIDE, PAUL, AND I KNOW YOU'RE
TRYING TO -- TRYING TO PUT THIS
OUT THERE FOR EVERYBODY TO
ABSORB BECAUSE YOU WANTED TO
GO-DUB WANT IT TO GO AWAY.
CERTAINLY YOUR SUPPORTERS ON THE
BOARD OF DIRECTORS WANT IT TO GO
AWAY.
THE ISSUE IS FOR YOU AND FOR THE
HOSPITAL, CAN THEY JUST IGNORE
IT?
CAN THEY LOOK AT PAUL LEVY EVERY
DAY OF THE WEEK AND SAY, THAT
DOESN'T MATTER ANYMORE HE'S A
GUY WHO HAS RESCUED THE
HOSPITAL.
HE HAS DONE A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT
IN TERMS OF BEING TRANSPARENT
AND WRITING THE BLOG.
OR ARE THEY GOING TO LOOK AT YOU
AND SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT, YOU'RE
DAMAGED.
YOU HAVE HURT-I DON'T KNOW IF
YOU CAN BE THE PUBLIC FACE OF
THIS HOSPITAL ANYMORE.
>> WELL, THAT DEPENDS IN GREAT
MEASURE ON HOW THE STAFF REACT.
MORE THAN ANYBODY.
MORE THAN THE BOARD.
MORE THAN THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE
--
>> Rooney: OR THE MEDIA.
>> IF THE STAFF DOESN'T FEEL
THEY CAN TRUST ME OVER TIME,
OBVIOUSLY, I CAN'T BE A FACTOR.
>> Rooney: WHAT WILL BE THE
MEASURE OF THAT?
>> WHAT'S NOW WHAT'S HAPPENING
IS I HAVE GOTTEN TREMENDOUS
LETTERS OF SUPPORT BY HUNDREDS
OF STAFF MEMBERS WHO BASICALLY
HAVE SAID YOU MADE A MISTAKE.
WE LIKE YOU WHAT DO.
PLEASE KEEP DOING IT.
THERE ARE OTHER PEOPLE ON THE
STAFF WHO ARE ANGRY AND UPSET
AND OBVIOUSLY WROTE WRITE ME A
LETTER TO THAT EFFECT AND WHAT I
HAVE BEEN SAYING TO THEM WHEN I
MEET WITH THEM PERSONALLY OR
COLLECTIVELY, IS GIVE ME A
CHANCE.
I'LL TRY TO MAKE IT UP TO YOU.
BY WORD AND BY DEED.
THAT THE HOSPITAL STILL STANDS
FOR WONDERFUL THINGS IN THE
COMMUNITY, THE WAY WE TREAT
PATIENTS AND THE LIKE.
AND I'M HOPING OVER TIME THAT
PEOPLE CAN ACCEPT THAT, AND I
THINK THAT PEOPLE TEND TO BE
FORGIVING, AND UNDERSTANDING.
EVERYBODY HAS MADE MISTAKES.
AND I CERTAINLY DID IN THIS
CASE.
IT WAS HOWEVER YOU CHARACTERIZE
THE MISTAKE OR BELIEVE WHAT IT
IS, I HOPE THAT IT'S MEASURED
AGAINST THE GOOD I HAVE DONE FOR
THE ORGANIZATION, AND THE
AFFECTION THAT I HAVE FOR THE
PEOPLE WHO WORK THERE, WHETHER
THEY BE THE DOCTORS AND NURSES
AND HOUSEKEEPERS AND THE LIKE.
I THINK PEOPLE KNOW THAT.
THEY'LL HAVE TO TELL ME OVER
TIME WHETHER I'M SUCCEEDING OR
NOT.
>> Rooney: YOU HAVE BEEN THERE A
WHILE NOW.
>> EIGHT YEARS.
>> Rooney: EIGHT YEARS.
>> MORE.
>> Rooney: IT'S A GREAT JOB AND
PAYS GOOD MONEY.
>> YES.
LESS GOOD, BUT --
>> Rooney: WELL, YOU HAVE HAD
OTHER HIGH PROFILE JOBS AND BEEN
AROUND BOSTON, URA AMONG THEM.
WHY NOT TAKE YOURSELF OUT OF
THIS?
WHY NOT EXTRICATE YOURSELF AND
MAKE IT EASIER FOR THE HOSPITAL
AND MAKE IT EASIER ON YOURSELF.
GO INTO SOMETHING ELSE.
>> IT WOULD ACTUALLY NOT MAKE IT
EASIER FOR THE HOSPITAL RIGHT
NOW.
I'M NOT MINIMIZING THE
IMPORTANCE OF THIS ISSUE.
BUT THE HOSPITAL HAS SOME VERY
IMPORTANT THINGS TO DO, AND
THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE
HOSPITAL WHO THINK THAT I NEED
TO PLAY AN IMPORTANT ROLE THERE.
THAT IT WOULD ACTUALLY BE MORE
DISRUPTIVE AT THIS POINT TO GO
THROUGH A SEARCH PROCESS FOR A
NEW C.E.O. AND ALL.
CERTAINLY, THAT'S WHAT THE BOARD
HAS SAID TO ME.
I TRUST THEIR JUDGMENT ON THAT.
I ALSO FEEL THAT WAY MYSELF.
IF I DIDN'T FEEL THAT WAY, I --
I WOULDN'T BE HAVING THIS
INTERVIEW WITH YOU.
WE WOULD BE TALKING ABOUT THE
NEXT JOB.
BUT I HAVE NOT REALLY CONSIDERED
RESIGNING BECAUSE I THINK THAT
THERE'S GOOD WORK TO BE DONE,
AND I THINK THAT --
>> Rooney: DIDN'T FLASH THROUGH
YOUR MIND?
>> NO, IT ACTUALLY DID NOT.
>> Rooney: DID YOU ASK THE BOARD
IF THEY WANTED YOU TO RESIGN?
>> NO, I DIDN'T INFLUENCE THE
BOARD AT ALL DURING THEIR
REVIEW.
AND DIDN'T SEEM TO ME
APPROPRIATE EVEN TO SHARE HOW I
MIGHT BE FEELING AT THAT POINT.
SO, THEY HAD THEIR MEETS.
AND THEY MADE VERY CLEAR IN THAT
SAME VOTE WHERE THEY PENALIZED
ME THAT THEY REALLY WANTED ME TO
STAY, THAT THEY THOUGHT I COULD
BRING VALUE TO THE ORGANIZATION
AND THEY SAID EXPLICITLY, WE
THINK IT'S BETTER FOR YOU TO
STAY.
AND IN ESSENCE, THEY SAID, WE
HOPE YOU WON'T LEAVE.
SO, I TRUST THEIR JUDGMENT.
THEY'RE THE FIDUCIARIES FOR THE
ORGANIZATION.
THEY ARE THE REPRESENTATIVES OF
THE COMMUNITY WHO DONATE THEIR
TIME AND EFFORT TO THE GOOD OF
THE HOSPITAL.
AND I'M TRUFTDING THEIR
JUDGMENT.
-- I'M TRUSTING THEIR JUDGMENT.
I ALSO TRUST IN THE GOOD FAITH
AND KINDLINESS OF THE PEOPLE WHO
WORK IN THE HOSPITAL.
I THINK MOST OF THEM FEEL THAT I
HAVE TREATED THEM WELL, AND
RESPECTFULLY AND HAVE ARE HELPED
IMPROVE THE PLACE, WORKING WITH
THEM.
AND I'M HOPING THAT OVER TIME,
THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE ARE ANGRY
AND RAE SENTFUL WILL SAY, OKAY,
HE MADE A MISTAKE.
HE OWNED UP TO IT.
LET'S GO ON.
>> Rooney: WHAT ABOUT THE
ATTORNEY GENERAL REVIEW.
YOU ARE WAITING FOR THAT TO COME
IN, THE FINAL PIECE OF THIS.
>> I THINK THAT'S A VERY GOOD
THING THAT THE BOARD ASKED FOR.
WHAT THE BOARD ASKED THE A.G. TO
DO WAS TO REVIEW THEIR OWN
PROCESS OF CONDUCTING THE REVIEW
OF ME.
THE BOARD'S VERY SERIOUS ABOUT
ITS FIDUCIARY RESPONSIBILITIES.
THIS WAS AN UNUSUAL KIND OF
CIRCUMSTANCE.
THE SPECIFIC LETTER TO THE A.G.
SAID PLEASE REVIEW WHAT WE DID,
TOP TO BOTTOM.
TELL FUSS YOU THINK WE HANDLED
IT RIGHT.
I THINK THAT THAT'S IMPORTANT.
THAT REVIEW IS IMPORTANT.
>> Rooney: WHEN WILL THAT COME
IN, DO YOU THINK?
>> I DON'T KNOW.
THAT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE BOARD'S
OWN CREDIBILITY IN THE FUFT FOR
THE A.G. TO SAY YOU DID IT RIGHT
OR ALMOST DID IT RIGHT.
FIX THIS.
I'M SURE THE BOARD WILL FOLLOW
HER GUIDANCE.
>> DO YOU FEEL THIS HAS BEEN A
CRUSADE BY ANY GROUP, PERHAPS A
UNION GROUP?
>> I'M REALLY NOT PREPARED TO
TALK ABOUT THAT AT ALL.
I THINK THAT THE ISSUE RIGHT NOW
IS MY ACTIONS, NOT HOW OTHER
PEOPLE AROUND TOWN OR AROUND THE
COUNTRY MIGHT FEEL ABOUT IT, OR
TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT.
>> WHY HAVE YOU BEEN RELUCTANT
TO JUST OUT AND OUT CHARACTERIZE
YOUR RELATIONSHIP WITH THE WOMAN
AS ROMANTIC.
IS THERE A REASON WHY NOT?
>> I DON'T THINK THE DETAILS OF
A PERSONAL RELATIONSHIP MATTER
IN GENERAL, AND I DON'T THINK
THEY MATTER IN THIS CASE.
THE MISTAKE THAT I MADE WAS
HIRING A GOOD PERSONAL FRIEND TO
A JOB SUPERVISING HER,
MAINTAINING HER POSITION OR
RETAINING HER IN THE HOSPITAL.
THAT'S THE MISTAKE.
>> Rooney: WELL, WE HAVE HEARD
THAT BEFORE FROM POLITICIANS
INCLUDING JOHN EDWARDS.
IT ISN'T THAT WE NEED TO KNOW
THE PRURIENT DETAILS.
THE MORE TRANSPARENT YOU ARE,
THE MORE OPEN YOU ARE, THAT'S
WHAT IT WAS.
>> WELL, I ACTUALLIES DID AGREE
WITH YOU ON THAT.
I DON'T THINK IT'S RELEVANT.
PEOPLE HAVE DRAWN THEIR
CONCLUSIONS ABOUT WHAT THEY
THINK THE RELATIONSHIP IS, OR
ISN'T.
I JUST DON'T THINK THAT IS
ANYBODY'S BUSINESS.
AND I'M NOT GOING TO COMMENT ON
THAT.
>> Rooney: ALL RIGHT.
PAUL LEVY, THANK YOU FOR COMING
HERE TODAY.
APPRECIATE IT.
>> THANK YOU.
>> Rooney: ALL RIGHT.
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