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>> Emily: SHE MAY BE THE MOST
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FAMILIAR US WOMAN IN THE WORLD.
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TV'S BIGGEST STAR WHO MAKE
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AMASSED FORTUNE ESTIMATED TO BE
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NEARLY $2.5 BILLION.
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NOW, OPRAH WINFREY'S LIFE IS THE
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SUBJECT OF NEW BOOK, FROM
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OPRAH'S CHILDHOOD DAYS AS THE
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VICE PRESIDENT OF HER NASHVILLE,
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TENNESSEE, HIGH SCHOOL CLASS.
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TO HER GRADUATION AND BEYOND.
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KITTY KELLY EXAMINES THE WOMAN
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WE DON'T KNOW.
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THE BOOK IS CALLED "OPRAH: A
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BIOGRAPHY" AND KITTY KELLY IS
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HERE.
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WELCOME.
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I WAS STUNNED BY SOME OF THE
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NEWS IN THE BOOK.
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I'M NOT AN OPRAH FOLLOWER.
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YOU START OUT BY SAYING THAT A
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LOT OF PEOPLE WEREN'T GOING TO
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COOPERATE.
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ABOUT THAT WHOLE THING HAVE
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PEOPLE SIGNING THESE
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CONFIDENTIALITY AGREEMENTS.
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NOW EVEN.
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>> INTERESTING SHE PUTS ALL OF
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HER EMPLOYEES NOT JUST AT HARPO,
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BUT AT "O" MAGAZINE, THERE ARE
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VERY FEW PUBLICATIONS IN THE
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LAND OF THE FREE AND THE HOME OF
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THE BRAVE WHO BELIEVE IN THE
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FIRST AMENDMENT, THAT WOULD DARE
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TO PUT EDITORIAL PEOPLE UNDER A
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CONFIDENTIALITY AGREEMENT LIKE
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THAT.
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BUT OPRAH HAS TO CONTROL, SHE'S
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VERY SECRETIVE.
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SHE SHE HAS HAD TO KEEP SECRETS
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ALL OF HER LIFE.
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NOW THIS SHE IS A MULTI-MILLION
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DOLLAR BRAND, SHE WANTS TO
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CONTROL IT.
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IT'S WORK.
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IT HAS WORKED.
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DO YOU KNOW -- IT'S VERY EASY
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FOR ME TO SIT HERE AND SAY,
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WELL, IT'S THE FIRST FULL
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COMPREHENSIVE BIOGRAPHY, IT IS.
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BUT HOW STRANGE IT IS THIS WOMAN
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HAS BEEN IN THE PUBLIC EYE FOR
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25 YEARS AND THERE HAS NEVER
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BEEN A BIOGRAPHY LIKE THIS
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BEFORE BECAUSE PUBLISHERS
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WOULDN'T TAKE IT ON.
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>> Emily: FEARFUL.
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>> ALSO, THEY OWE A LOT TO
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OPRAH.
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SHE'S DONE A LOT FOR LITERACY.
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SHE HAS HER BOOK CLUB, SHE HAS
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WRITERS ON THE SHOW, PUBLISHERS
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HAVE MID A GREAT DEAL OF MONEY
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OF A OF HER.
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EVERYONE WANTS TO BE ON OPRAH.
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BUSINESSMEN WANT TO PUT THEIR
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PRODUCTS, POLITICIANS.
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PEOPLE ARE AFRAID.
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>> Emily: WERE YOU?
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>> NO.
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I WASN'T AFRAID.
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PROBABLY MORE GUTS THAN BRAINS.
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I REALLY WANTED TO DO THIS BOOK,
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BECAUSE SHE IS A GIFT TO A
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BIOGRAPHY.
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SHE IS A FABULOUS LIFE STORY.
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IT'S RAGS TO RICHES AND A HAPPY
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ENDING.
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SO, I REALLY WANTED TO DO THIS
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BOOK.
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I DIDN'T WANT TO DO ANY OTHER
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BOOK, BUT IT WAS NOT AN EASY
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SELL AT ALL.
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>> Emily: SHE HAD CONFESSED
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SO MANY THINGS ABOUT HER
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CHILDHOOD OVER THE YEARS, IN
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VARIOUS STAGES, SNIPPETS OF
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SEXUAL ABUSE, HER OWN SEXUAL
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PROMISCUITY, DRUG USE, DID YOU
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ALWAYS SUSPECT THAT THERE WAS A
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BACK STORY TO SOME OF THOSE OR
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DO YOU ONLY FIND OUT WHEN YOU
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STARTED LOOKING IN TO IT?
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>> I ONLY FOUND OUT WHEN I
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STARTED LOOKING IN TO IT.
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AND THEN I BEGAN TO SEE THAT,
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YES, THIS WOMAN WHO APPEARS TO
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BE SO VERY, VERY OPEN WAS FORCED
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IN TO MOST OF THAT.
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THE ONE THING SHE DID DO IN THE
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VERY EARLY STAGES OF HER CAREER
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WAS TO TALK ABOUT HER SEXUAL
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MOLESTATION.
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NOW, WHEN I INTERVIEWED HER
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FATHER AND HER AUNT CATHERINE,
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THEY OF COURSE DENIED IT.
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I SAY, OF COURSE, BECAUSE MOST
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FAMILIES OF SEXUAL ABUSE VICTIMS
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DO DENY IT.
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THEIR IN TO DENIAL.
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IF THEY FACED UP TO IT THEY
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MIGHT HAVE TO FACE THEIR OWN
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COMPLICITY.
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I THINK THAT OPRAH'S ADMISSION
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OF THE SEXUAL ABUSE THAT SHE HAD
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AS A CHILD, AND IT WASN'T JUST
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THE ONE, SHE FOLLOWED IT AND
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FOLLOWED IT, SHE PURSUED
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LEGISLATION, I THINK IT'S HER
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GREATEST LEGACY.
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I THINK IT'S FAR SUPERIOR TO THE
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$40 MILLION SCHOOL IN SOUTH
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AFRICA.
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YET THINK ABOUT IT.
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THIS WAS THE WORST THING THAT
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EVER HAPPENED TO OPRAH WINFREY
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IN HER LIFE.
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THE SEXUAL ABUSE THAT SHE
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SUFFERED FROM THE AGE OF 9 TO 14
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REALLY SCARRED HER.
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SCARS HER TO THIS DAY, THAT VERY
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SAME THING WAS PERPETUATED ON
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THE CHILDREN IN HER CARE AT THE
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SOUTH AFRICA SCHOOL.
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>> Emily: SHE DID JUMP TOP
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THAT.
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YOU BELIEVED HER, THOUGH, THIS
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WAS COUSIN WHO WAS 19 YEARS OLD,
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SHE WAS --
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>> I DO BELIEVE HER, YES.
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I DO BELIEVE HER.
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I KNOW HER FAMILY DOESN'T
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BELIEVE HER, THEY FEEL THAT SHE
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JUST DID IT FOR THE RATINGS.
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I DO BELIEVE HER.
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>> Emily: THERE ARE OTHER
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THINGS IN THERE THAT YOU TELL
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THESE COMPLICATED STORIES OF
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SOME OF HER RELATIONSHIPS WHICH
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ONES AGAIN, I DIDN'T KNOW
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ANYTHING ABOUT.
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I'VE SEEN THIS PATTERN BEFORE
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WITH PEOPLE, I'M SURE YOU HAVE,
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TOO, WHERE THEY SWITCH ONE SET
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OF CIRCUMSTANCES IN TO THE LIFE
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OF ANOTHER.
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I MEAN IT HAPPENS, ALSO HAPPENS
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WITH PEOPLE WHO ARE REALLY
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POWERFUL AND RICH.
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I'VE SEEN IT BEFORE.
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IS IT INTENTIONAL DO YOU THINK?
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YOU TALKED ABOUT ONE
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RELATIONSHIP WITH A GUY, TIM
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WATTS, A RADIO PERSONALITY.
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SHE SWITCHED THAT SCENARIO ON TO
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ANOTHER GUY WHICH WAS MUCH LESS
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OF A RELATIONSHIP.
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>> I THINK THAT THE PARTICULAR
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SITUATION YOU'RE REFERRING TO IS
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THE AFFAIR SHE HAD IN BALTIMORE
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FOR MANY YEARS WITH A MARRIED
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MAN.
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THAT AFFAIR BROUGHT HER TO HER
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KNEES, ABSOLUTELY BROUGHT HER TO
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HER KNEES.
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I DON'T THINK SHE EVER REALLY
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RECOVERED THE KIND OF TRUST THAT
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YOU WOULD HAVE TO INVEST IN THE
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INTIMATE RELATIONSHIP.
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SHE'S GOT A VERY SOLID
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RELATIONSHIP WITH STEADMAN
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GRAHAM.
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THEY HAD BEEN ENGAGED SINCE
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1992.
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>> Emily: I KNOW.
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>> TRULY INTERVIEWED 850 PEOPLE
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FOR THIS BOOK, I WOULD SWEAR TO
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YOU THAT 800 OF THEM -- WHAT IS
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THE DEAL?
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I FINALLY GOT TO SAY, WHAT DO
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YOU MEAN?
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>> Emily: I TOTALLY READ ALL
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OF THAT ON STEADMAN GRAHAM.
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YOU SORT OF CAPTURED WHAT I
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SUSPECTED HIM TO BE LIKE.
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WHICH IS -- BORING.
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>> VERY ATTRACTIVE.
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>> Emily: NOT IN HER LEAGUE
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IN TERMS OF CONVERSATION OR ANY
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OTHER KIND OF -- HE'S THERE.
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I ENDED UP BELIEVING THAT HE IS
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DEFINITELY WITH HER, BUT --
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>> YES.
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DEFINITELY WITH HER.
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BUT IT IS NOT --
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>> Emily: THEY BELIE WHO HE
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REALLY IS.
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>> THAT'S TRUE.
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WE ALL GET CAUGHT UP WITH THAT
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KIND OF IMAGE I THINK.
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BUT HIS IMAGE, HIS LOOKS, VERY,
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VERY IMPORTANT TO OPRAH.
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AS YOU CAN SEE SHE HAS A PROBLEM
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AS AN AFRICAN AMERICAN WOMAN WHO
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IS DARK SKINNED, SHE AS A BIG
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PROBLEM EVEN TO THIS DAY --
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>> Emily: CALLS HERSELF A
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FUDGEY.
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>> SHE VERY ENVY US OF
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LIGHT-SKINNED AFRICAN AMERICAN
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WOMEN.
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SHE IS ALWAYS BEEN ATTRACTED TO
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LIGHT SKINNED AFRICAN AMERICAN
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MEN.
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AS HER FATHER SAID TO BARACK
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OBAMA TO STEADMAN GRAHAM TO TIM
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WATTS.
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IT'S A BIG MOTIF IN HER LIFE.
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AND THAT IT WAS SOMETHING THAT
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I, AS A WHITE WOMAN, HAD TO COME
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TO UNDERSTAND IN ORDER TO WRITE
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ABOUT IT.
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>> Emily: I WAS UNAWARE OF
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WHAT AN ACHIEVER SHE WAS VERY
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EARLY ON.
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BOTH ACADEMICALLY AND
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PHYSICALLY.
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THESE BEAUTY CONTESTS, I JUST
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MISSED ALL THAT.
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I DIDN'T KNOW.
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>> THAT WAS PART OF GETTING
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AHEAD IN THE SOUTH.
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SHE WAS VERY STRATEGIC IN THAT.
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AFTER THE BIRTH OF HER BABY --
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>> Emily: I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT
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THAT EITHER.
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I'M SURE SHE'S TALKED ABOUT IT.
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I DON'T WATCH IT REGULARLY.
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>> SHE HASN'T TALKED ABOUT IT
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UNTIL HER SISTER WROTE AN
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ARTICLE AND SOLD HER OUT, OPRAH
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WAS REALLY --
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>> Emily: TELL THAT STORY,
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ONLY 14 YEARS OLD.
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>> SHE WAS ONLY 14 YEARS OLD.
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SHE HAD BEEN VERY, VERY SEXUALLY
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PROMISCUOUS, OPRAH HERSELF
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DESCRIBED HERSELF IN HER OWN
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AUTOBIOGRAPHY AS A PROSTITUTE
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RUNNING THE STREETS OF
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MILWAUKEE.
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DURING THOSE TROUBLED TEENAGE
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YEARS.
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SHE BECAME PREGNANT JUST AT THE
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TIME HER FATHER -- WELL, HER
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FATHER, MAN WHO STEPS UP TO TAKE
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RESPONSIBILITY, ISN'T HER
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BIOLOGICAL FATHER CAME TO GET
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HER IN MILWAUKEE AND TAKE HER
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BACK TO NASHVILLE.
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AND SHE WAS PREGNANT AT THE
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TIME.
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AND WHEN SHE HAD TO TELL HIM
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THAT SHE WAS PREGNANT SHE WAS
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SEVEN MONTHS ALONG AND SHE GAVE
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FOURTH THIS LITTLE BOY WHO LIVED
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SIX WEEKS.
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AFTER THAT HER FATHER CAME TO
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HER SAID, YOU HAVE A CHANCE NOW,
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GOD HAS GIVEN YOU A SECOND
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CHANCE.
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YOU'VE GOT TO MAKE SOMETHING OF
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YOUR LIFE.
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SHE WENT BACK TO SCHOOL AND DID
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IT AND THAT WAS THE FIRST HUGE
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SECRET THAT SHE KEPT.
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SHE NEVER TOLD ANYONE ABOUT THAT
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BABY, NO ONE.
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HER FATHER NEVER TALKED ABOUT
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IT.
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HER STEPMOTHER NEVER TALKED
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ABOUT IT.
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THE ONLY REASON HER SISTER KNEW
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ABOUT IT WAS HER MOTHER FLEW TO
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NASHVILLE TO BE WITH OPRAH FOR A
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WEEK.
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IT WAS A SOURCE, AS YOU CAN
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IMAGINE DURING THAT TIME OF
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SHAME.
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AND HER SISTER SOLD AN ARTICLE
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TO THE TABLOIDS, AND THAT'S WHEN
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OPRAH HAS TO COME OUT.
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>> Emily: YOU TALK AT LENGTH
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TO VERNON WINFREY, THE MAN WHO
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RAISED HER, PART OF THE TIME.
_t 19:21:01:16
SHE DID DO A LOT OF SHUFFLING
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AROUND.
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>> A LOT OF SHUFFLING AROUND.
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>> Emily: ALSO SAY, YOU'VE
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BEEN ASKED ABOUT THIS MANY TIMES
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THAT YOU DISCOVERED THE REAL --
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IDENTITY OF HER REAL FATHER.
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WHY NOT JUST SAY IT.
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YOU HAVE SO MANY OTHER DETAILS,
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WHY WOULDN'T YOU?
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>> WELL, THE REASON I WOULDN'T
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IS THAT I GAVE MY WORD OF HONOR
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TO MRS. ESTHERS, HER AUNT
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CATHERINE THAT I WOULDN'T.
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AND --
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>> Emily: IS IT ON BIRTH
_t 19:21:28:29
CERTIFICATE SOMEWHERE?
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HOW DO THEY TO KNOW?
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>> GOOD POINT.
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WHEN I ASKED HER THAT, SHE WAS
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THERE AT THE TIME THAT OPRAH WAS
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BORN.
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SHE KNEW HER MOTHER QUITE WELL,
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SHE WAS QUITE CLOSE TO HER.
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THIS IS IN MISSISSIPPI.
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AND SHE SAID, YOU CANNOT SAY WHO
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HER FATHER IS UNTIL OPRAH'S
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MOTHER TELLS HER.
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>> Emily: WHY DOESN'T SHE
_t 19:21:53:13
TELL HER?
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ARE YOU SURE SHE HASN'T?
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>> YEAH, I AM.
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I AM SURE.
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OPRAH GIVES CREDIT TO VERNON
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WINFREY, AS SHE SHOULD.
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I DON'T THINK SHE'LL EVER HAVE A
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D.N.A. TEST.
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HER MOTHER DOESN'T TELL HER AND
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HER AUNT CATHERINE DOESN'T TELL
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HER, I FIND MYSELF GETTING
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SUCKED IN TO THAT SECRECY I WAS
_t 19:22:16:07
JUST TELLING YOU ABOUT.
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>> Emily: YOUR COMPLICIT NOW.
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>> I PUT IT IN A FOOTNOTE WHO
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HAD HAPPENED.
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IS CATHERINE TOP RELEASE ME FROM
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MY WORD OF HONOR, I DON'T KNOW
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THAT I WOULD DO IT PUBLICLY.
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BUT I WOULD WRITE TO OPRAH
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WINFREY AND SAY, THIS IS WHAT
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YOUR AUNT CATHERINE TOLD ME.
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>> Emily: YOU DON'T THINK
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OPRAH IS EVER ASKED ABOUT IT?
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>> I KNOW SHE'S ASKED HER
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MOTHER.
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AND SHE'S ASKED HER AUNT
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CATHERINE AND HER CAN'T
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CATHERINE TOLD ME, OPRAH HAS
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CRIED ON MY SHOULDER BEGGING TO
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KNOW WHO HER FATHER IS.
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>> Emily: IS HE STILL ALIVE?
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JUST ONE LITTLE TIDBIT.
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>> SHE HAS HAD A DIFFICULT
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RELATIONSHIP WITH THEM NOW.
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WITH ALL OF THE FAMILY MEMBERS,
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THE SISTER, THE MOTHER, THE
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FATHER, WHY?
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>> SHE HAS DONE GOOD THINGS FOR
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THEM.
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SHE'S TAKEN WONDERFUL CARE OF
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THEM FINANCIALLY BUT SHE DOESN'T
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REALLY -- SHE'S NOT CLOSE TO HER
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MOTHER.
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SHE HAS GIVEN HER MOTHER A HOME,
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A CAR AND DRIVER, NURSES, CHEFS,
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EVERYTHING BUT HER PHONE NUMBER.
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HER MOTHER CAN'T CALL HER
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DIRECTLY.
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HER FATHER, SHE'S BEEN VERY GOOD
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TO AND SHE GIVES HIM FULL
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CREDIT.
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BUT SHE'S CREATED HER OWN
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CELEBRITY FAMILY.
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>> Emily: GAIL KING.
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>> YES.
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SHE DESCRIBED HER OWN BIOLOGICAL
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MOTHER AS, QUOTE, JUST A PAIR OF
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FALLOPIAN TUBES.
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MY REAL MOTHER IS DR. MYA
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ANGELO.
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THAT'S WHO SHE FEELS SHOULD BE,
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COULD BE HER MOTHER IF IT WAS A
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PERFECT WORLD.
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SID DEPORITIE AS HER FATHER.
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QUINCY JONES AS HER UNCLE.
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GAIL KING AS HER SISTER.
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THAT IS THE FAMILY THAT SHE
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FEELS SHE DEFENSE AND WON THAT
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GIVES HER SUPPORT AND LOVE.
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>> Emily: DIDN'T REMEMBER THE
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OPRAH OF THE EARLY '80S WITHIN
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SHE DID ONE SALACIOUS -- SHE OF
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THE ORIGINAL -- MORE DOWN AND
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DIRTY THAN JERRY SPRINGER.
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SHE WAS THE ORIGINAL GENRE.
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THEN SHE HAD THIS, WHAT OF THE
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YEAR AGAIN?
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>> 1994.
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>> Emily: THIS OASIS, I'M NOT
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DOING THAT ANY MORE.
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I REMEMBER I WAS WORKING WITH --
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WENT AND WORKED FOR HER, SHE OF
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GOING TO HAVE THIS TOTAL CHANGE,
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WHO WOULD HAVE GUESSED THAT
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WOULD HAVE WORKED?
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>> SHE CERTAINLY HAD A HOLD OF
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THE SENSE OF THE AMERICAN
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PUBLIC.
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IT WASN'T JUST THAT SHE DECIDED,
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IT WAS AT THAT TIME THAT PEOPLE
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WERE COME DOWN ON TRASH
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TELEVISION.
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SOME TELEVISION CRITICS,
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ESPECIALLY TOM SHALES AT THE
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"WASHINGTON POST" TALKED ABOUT
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TRASH TELEVISION, HELD OPRAH UP
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AS THE START OF IT ALL.
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THE MR. BENNETT --
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>> Emily: BOB BENNETT.
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>> WAS COMING DOWN.
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BILL BENNETT.
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OPRAH SAW AT THAT TIME THAT SHE
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HAD TO STEP BACK AND SHE PURSUED
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THIS NEW AGE PHILOSOPHY AND THE
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KIND OF SPIRITUALITY AND YOU'RE
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RIGHT.
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IT WORKED.
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THE PEOPLE THAT KNOW HER NOW
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WOULD BE ASTOUNDED TO READ PART
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OF THIS BOOK OF OPRAH IN THE
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BEGINNING.
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>> Emily: EVEN NOW, SHE'S
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ATTRACTED TO PEOPLE WITH KIND OF
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HARD LUCK STORIES, PEOPLE WHO --
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WHY SHE GOT IN TO THAT WHOLE
_t 19:25:51:28
THING WITH THAT GUY FRYE, JAMES
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FRYE.
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BELIEVED THAT BOOK "A MILLION
_t 19:25:56:25
PIECES" ALL OF THAT.
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SHE BUYS THOSE STORY LINES, IT'S
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INTERESTING.
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>> THEY ARE LIKE HER OWN LIFE.
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SHE IDENTIFIED WITH JAMES FRYE
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BECAUSE SHE, TOO, HAD A DRUG
_t 19:26:07:24
PROBLEM.
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SHE IDENTIFIES WITH -- SHE HAD
_t 19:26:11:23
WALLIE LAMB ON HER BOOK CLUB
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BECAUSE HE WROTE ABOUT, "SHE'S
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COME UNDONE ABOUT IT.
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OBESE TEENAGE GIRL WHO HAD A
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BABY OUT OF WEDLOCK.
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SHE IDENTIFIES WITH THOSE
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STORIES.
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A LOT OF OPRAH'S TELEVISION IS
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OPRAH IN A SENSE.
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SHE'S MADE HER MARK BY ASKING
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CELEBRITIES AND GUESTS TO REVEAL
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THE MOST PAINFUL, INTIMATE PARTS
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OF THEMSELVES.
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>> Emily: WHY IS STILL OBESE?
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>> EVERYTHING AT HER FINGERTIPS
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I WAS LOOKING AT THE PHOTOGRAPHS
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WHERE SHE WHIPS ON FROM 40, 100
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POUNDS.
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>> SHE CAN CONTROL ABSOLUTELY
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EVERYTHING IN HER LIFE FROM
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MONEY TO EMPLOYEES TO WHAT IS
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SAID ABOUT HER.
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SHE CAN CONTROL WHAT
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PHOTOGRAPHER WILL TAKE HER
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PICTURE EM TREMENDOUS WHAT
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ANGLE.
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>> EVERYTHING.
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BUT SHE HAS NOT BEEN ABLE TO
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CONTROL THE WEIGHT.
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AND I THINK THAT COMES FROM
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SOMETHING DEEP INSIDE, BACK TO
_t 19:27:18:07
THE CHILDHOOD YEARS.
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I THINK SHE WOULD ADMIT THIS,
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SHE HAS EXPERIENCED MORE
_t 19:27:26:12
DISCRIMINATION AS AN OVERWEIGHT
_t 19:27:28:10
WOMAN THAN SHE EVER HAS AS AN
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AFRICAN AMERICAN WOMAN.
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>> Emily: KITLY KELLY, I
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LIKED IT.
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THAT SIT FOR ""GREATER BOSTON"
_t 19:27:38:26
COME UP TOMORROW NIGHT.
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ON HIS PUBLIC CENSURE AND
_t 19:27:46:27
PRIVACY BEING COMPROMISED ON
_t 19:27:48:05
FACEBOOK.
_t 19:27:48:11
LET US KNOW WHAT YOU THINK AT
_t 19:27:51:05
"GREATER BOSTON" ON FACEBOOK.
_t 19:27:52:21
THAT'S ALL COMING UP.
_t 19:27:53:26
COMING UP NEXT, HIGH SCHOOL QUIZ
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SHOW.
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I'M EMILY ROONEY, GOOD NIGHT.
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