>> Rooney: TONIGHT ON
"GREATER BOSTON," IN THE
LINE OF FIRE.
TEENAGERS SPEAK OUT ABOUT
THE VIOLENCE ON BOSTON'S
STREETS.
PLUS, THE RACE FOR
GOVERNOR.
INDEPENDENT CANDIDATE JIM
CAHILL ON WHY HE'S BEEN A
LIGHTNING ROD FOR
CRITICISM.
>> Rooney: GOOD EVENING.
BOSTON'S ROUGHEST
NEIGHBORHOOD ARE USED TO
VIOLENT CRIME, BUT WITH
THE RECENT MURDERS OF TWO
14-YEAR-OLD BOYS IN THE
SHOOTING OF A 10-YEAR-OLD
GIRL, SOMETHING ESPECIALLY
GRIM SEEMS TO BE HAPPENING
THIS YEAR.
"GREATER BOSTON" RECENTLY
BROUGHT TWO TEENS TO A
FIELD'S CORNER BARBER SHOP
WHERE WE SPOKE WITH THEM
AND THE SHOP'S OWNER.
13-YEAR-OLD DEE, WHO ASKED
US NOT TO USE HIS REAL
NAME, RECENTLY LOST HIS
NAME NICOLAS DAVIS.
AND SAYS NOW HE IS AFRAID
TO WALK THROUGH HIS
NEIGHBORHOOD ALONE.
>> SOMETIMES I WALK BY
MYSELF, BUT NOW WHEN I
WALK WITH SOMEBODY RIGHT
NEAR ME, I FEEL SCARED
WALKING DOWN THE STREET BY
MYSELF.
>> Rooney: 17-YEAR-OLD
DAVID HINES IS MORE
CONFIDENT.
BUT HE'S BEEN THE VICTIM
OF VIOLENCE HIMSELF,
INCLUDING THE TIME A THIEF
STOLE HIS BAG ON THE
SUBWAY.
>> I WOULD CHASE AFTER
HIM, AND I GRABBED HIM AND
HE ACTUALLY PULLED A KNIFE
ON ME.
AND IT ACTUALLY GOT TO MY
NECK.
>> IT IS THAT KIND OF
SENSELY VIOLENCE THAT
CONCERNS BELINDA
AUGUSTINE.
>> IF HE IS NOT AT SCHOOL
OR MY IMMEDIATE FAMILY, HE
IS NOT JUST OUTSIDE.
HE IS WITH ME.
>> Rooney: THE THREE,
DEE, DAVID HINES, AND
BELINDA AUGUSTINE HAVE ONE
THING IN COMMON: THE
THREAD OF VIOLENCE IS ALL
AROUND THEM.
HOW TO CHANGE THAT OR
WHETHER IT IS POSSIBLE TO
CHANGE, DEPENDS ON YOUR
PERSPECTIVE, LIKE DEE'S.
>> YOU MIGHT NOT WANT TO
BE IN THE GANG, BUT THEY
MIGHT THREATEN YOU TO
JOIN.
>> Rooney: SOMETHING
DAVID HINES HAS RESISTED.
HE RUNS A CHURCH GROUP,
AND PLANS TO BE A DOCTOR.
HE SAYS SOMETIMES YOU HAVE
TO PUSH BACK.
>> YOU CAN'T BE A SOFTIE
BECAUSE YOU GET JUMPED.
AND YOU CAN'T BE A
HARD-CORE KIND OF GUY
BECAUSE YOU'LL GET INTO
FIGHTS AND AGGRAVATE
PEOPLE.
>> Rooney: IT IS A
TRICKY BALANCE, AND HINES
SAYS A LACK OF MALE ROLE
MODELS COMPOUNDS THE
PROBLEM.
>> A LOT OF TIMES YOUNG
MEN TRY TO GRAVITATE
TOWARDS OTHER YOUNG MEN
BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A
MENTOR.
WE DON'T HAVE SOMEBODY TO
LOOK AFTER US.
SO WE GRAVITATE TOWARDS
OUR FRIENDS.
GRAPH -- GRAVITATE MORE
FRIENDS ON THE STREET.
>> KIDS ARE GOING TO FIND
STUFF TO DO.
THIS IS NOT ONLY THE
ASSAULTER.
THIS IS THE VICTIM ALSO
BEING AT A BASKETBALL PARK
HANGING OUT, AND, YOU
KNOW, A SHOOTING HAPPENS.
>> Rooney: SHE PLANS TO
KEEP HER SONS OFF THE
STREET AS LONG AS SHE CAN.
>> I CAN'T STAND TO SEE
KIDS ALL SUMMER WALK
AROUND -- WALK AROUND IN
PACKS.
MY SON IS NOT ONE OF THE
KIDS THAT JUST GOES TO THE
PARK.
>> Rooney: THAT MAY SEEM
EXTREME, BUT AS KIDS LIKE
DEE KNOW FIRSTHAND, THERE
IS NO ALTERNATIVE.
>> I FELT SAFE UNTIL I
HEARD ABOUT ALL OF THESE
KILLINGS OF YOUNG TEENS.
>> Rooney: IT IS A
FEELING THAT TOO MANY IN
BOSTON KNOW ALL TOO WELL.
JOINING ME IS CHIP
GREENIDGE, AND MICHAEL
JAMES OF THE NEXUS
ALLIANCE, AN ORGANIZATION
DESIGNED TO HAVE A
POSITIVE AND SU STAINED
IMPACT ON CHILDREN.
WELCOME TO BOTH OF YOU.
>> THANK YOU.
>> Rooney: WHEN THIS
LATEST MURDER HAPPENED ON
14-YEAR-OLD NICHOLAS
DAVID, I WAS STRUCK.
I WAS STRUCK WHEN HIS
FATHER CAME FORWARD.
I CAN'T REMEMBER WHEN A
VICTIM HAS HAD A FATHER
COME FORWARD.
IT IS USUALLY THE MOTHER
OR AUNT.
HE LIKENED THIS TO THE WAR
ON TERROR, AND HE SAID THE
TALIBAN.
HE SAID WE KNOW WHO THESE
GUYS ARE, WE NEED TO GO
AFTER THEM, AND WE NEED TO
ROUND THEM UP.
IT IS SORT OF A CIVIL
RIGHTS BE DAMNED ATTITUDE.
WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT
THAT?
>> BASICALLY, I THINK HE
IS RIGHT.
WE NEED TO STEP UP AND
PROTECT OUR FAMILIES, BUT
IN A DECENT WAY.
HE NEEDS TO ENCOURAGE THE
OTHERS IN THE COMMUNITY
WHO WITNESSED THAT TYPE OF
CRIME, TO STEP UP.
>> THE FAMILY OF HIS
10-YEAR-OLD GIRL SAW IT
HAPPENED AND AREN'T
TALKING.
WHY NOT?
>> THERE IS A RULE ON THE
STREET, NO SNITCHING, BUT
AT WHAT COST.
>> Rooney: THEY'RE
AFRAID THEY'RE GOING TO
DIE IF THEY DO.
WE TALKED ABOUT THIS
BEFORE.
THE ROLE MODEL ISSUE.
THIS 14-YEAR-OLD HAD A
DAD -- SOUNDS LIKE HE HAD
A DARN GOOD ROLE MODEL.
YOU LOOK AT THAT AND IT'S
HEARTBREAKING.
DAVID HINES -- I DON'T
KNOW WHAT HIS ROLE MODEL
IS -- HE HAS A MOTHER AND
FATHER SO OBVIOUSLY HE IS
GOING TO MAKE IT.
YOU LOOK AT DEE, WHO
DIDN'T WANT HIS REAL NAME
USED.
I PERSONALLY FEEL WORRIED
FOR HIM.
>> DEFINITELY.
BOSTON RIGHT NOW IS A
REALLY TRYING PLACE.
I THINK WHAT THE COMMUNITY
IS LOOKING AT, THEY'RE
LOOKING WHO TO GO TO.
SHOULD WE GO TO THE MAYOR?
PEOPLE SAY, SHOULD I GO TO
THE GOVERNOR?
RIGHT NOW I THINK WHAT THE
ORGANIZATIONS ARE ARE
SCRAMBLING HOW DO WE
ADDRESS THIS ISSUE.
IT IS NOT ALONE GOING TO
BE SOLVED BY THE
FAITH-BASED COMMUNITY.
IT IS TIME FOR THE
COMMUNITY TO STEP UP.
AND I AGREE WITH MIKE
SAYING, THE COMMUNITIES
ARE SAYING, YOU KNOW WHAT?
WE HAVE TO START TELLING
WHO THIS IS.
THE INTERESTING THING THAT
CAME OUT IN BOSTON IS THAT
WE HAVE TOO MANY KIDS THAT
ARE OUT THERE THAT GO TO
FUNERALS MORE THAN THEY GO
TO GRADUATIONS.
THAT'S THE THIRD
14-YEAR-OLD, AND THERE HAS
BEEN A 17-YEAR-OLD.
SEVEN OF THEM WERE 22, AND
A BUNCH OF THEM WERE 23
AND 24.
THEY WERE PROBABLY KIDS IN
A JUVENILE FACILITY, AND
CAME OUT AND GOT RIGHT
BACK INTO SOME KIND OF
STREET CRIME.
I POINT-BLANK ASK BOTH OF
YOU?
WHY IS THIS HAPPENING IN
THE BLACK COMMUNITY?
I'VE BEEN HAVING THIS
DISCUSSION SINCE I MOVED
TO BOSTON IN THE '70s.
WHY IS IT THERE.
I BELIEVE THERE IS A
SERIES OF REASONS WHY THIS
IS HAPPENING NOW.
ONE, I THINK A LOT OF
PEOPLE HAVE LOST HOPE.
THEY BASICALLY ARE
SOMEWHAT IN A STATE OF
P.D. S.D.
THEY DON'T FEEL GOOD ABOUT
THEMSELVES, THEIR LIFE
CIRCUMSTANCES, AND SO
THEY'RE ANGRY.
AND IF THEY'RE ANGRY,
BASICALLY THEY'RE MORE
THAN LIKELY WILLING TO NOT
ONLY STRIKE OUT, THEY
DON'T CARE ABOUT
THEMSELVES, HOW CAN THEY
CARE ABOUT SOMEONE ELSE.
WHAT THEY NEED TO THINK IS
TEACHING THEM OTHER WAYS,
TEACHING CRITICAL SKILLS.
>> I ACTUALLY DID SERVE AT
THE MOST FUNERAL OF DUJUAN
MARTIN.
2,000 PEOPLE THAT WERE
THERE, HALF OF THE PEOPLE,
AND IT WAS FACILITATED BY
MY PASTOR, AND HALF OF
THEM WITH CHILDREN WERE
YOUNG PEOPLE.
AND THEY WERE REALLY HURT.
I DIDN'T SEE AS MANY
PEOPLE REACHING OUT AFTER
THE SERVICE TO DO
SOMETHING WITH THEM TO
ENGAGE AND HELP THEM WITH
THEIR PAIN.
MY PASTOR ASKED THE WHOLE
CONGREGATION, EVERYONE
THAT WAS THERE, WHAT ARE
YOU GOING TO DO TOMORROW?
AND I DIDN'T HEAR A
RESPONSE.
>> I REALLY WANT TO PUSH
THE PIECE ABOUT WHAT WE'RE
SEEING NOW ARE SYMPTOMS OF
STUFF THAT HAS HAPPENED IN
THE '80s.
THE STIMULUS PACKAGE TO
GET OUR ECONOMY RIGHT WAS
NOT DIRECTED TOWARDS THE
AFRICAN-AMERICAN
COMMUNITIES.
AND THE THING THAT WAS
GIVEN TO US IS SOMETHING
CALLED THE CRACK COCAINE.
THAT WAS THE STIMULUS
PACKAGE WE GOT.
THEY'RE INSTANT JOBS TO
THE KIDS.
AND IT HAS DESTROYED THE
FUNDAMENTAL FABRIC OF THE
BLACK COMMUNITY.
WE'RE DEALING WITH ALL OF
THOSE SYMPTOMS NOW.
THESE ARE THE KIDS OF
THOSE PEOPLE THAT WERE
INVOLVED IN THAT WHOLE
THING.
SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO
LOOK AT THE SYMPTOMS AND
ALSO UNDERSTAND WHY ARE WE
HERE TODAY?
>> Rooney: WE'VE BEEN
TALKING FOR DECADES ABOUT
PROGRAMS AND FEDERAL FUNDS
AND STATE MONIES.
IT IS BEYOND THAT.
I LISTENED TO BELINDA
AUGUSTINE -- WE HAVE TO
GIVE THEM SOMETHING TO DO.
THE KIDS -- THOSE AREN'T
THE ONCE, UNLESS YOUR AN
INNOCENT BY-STANDER.
IT CAN'T BE JUST PROGRAM
AFTER PROGRAM.
THE PEOPLE WHO ARE OUT
THERE ROAMING THE STREETS
AREN'T GOING TO GO TO THE
PROGRAMS.
>> TRUE.
I DO SENSE THAT THERE ARE
SOME PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT
WOULD BENEFIT FROM
PROGRAMS, BUT IT'S
REALLY --
>> THAT'S THE POINT.
WHAT KIND OF PROGRAM.
IS IT JUST SOMETHING WHERE
YOU SHOW UP, YOU ATTEND
AND YOU FEEL GOOD AND YOU
LEAVE AND GO BACK TO YOUR
DAY TO DAY?
OR DOES IT TEACH YOU A
SKILL TO HELP PROPEL
YOURSELF TO THE NEXT LEVEL
AND BREAK THAT CYCLE.
ONE THING WE'RE PLANNING
TO DO IN RESPONSE TO SOME
OF THIS VIOLENCE GOING ON,
WE'RE HOSTING A DAY OF
PEACE ON JUNE 19th OVER
AT THE -- AT GREATER LOVE
TABERNACLE, AND IT HOSTS,
ONE, A BIKE RIDE FOR
PEACE.
LAST YEAR WE CONDUCTED IT
AND HAD OVER 100 MEN RIDE
IN UNISON, AND WE HAD OVER
500 PEOPLE IN TOTAL
EXTEND.
THIS YEAR WE'LL HAVE A
FILM, AND A BIG PEACE
RALLY.
>> Rooney: STILL, YOU
SPOKE TO SOMETHING, AND I
HAVE TO WRAP IT UP IN A
SECOND -- BUT IT IS ALL
ABOUT OUTRAGE.
IF THIS WERE HAPPENING IN
BEACON HILL OR WELLESLEY,
THERE WOULD BE A HUGE
OUTRAGE FROM THE
COMMUNITY.
THERE IS A MALAISE IN THE
COMMUNITY.
PEOPLE GET MAD, BUT IT'S
NOT A CONTINUUM.
>> BACK IN THE '80s,
WHEN I WAS GROWING UP,
THERE WAS A LARGE GROUP
THAT WE HAD OF COMMUNITY
LEADERS THAT WERE OUT
THERE.
CIVIC LEADERS.
MELANIE PASS, TORI BROWN,
JUANITA WADE, AND MANY
THAT HAVE JUST PASSED THIS
YEAR.
WE HAD THE HEAD GUY AT THE
A.B.C. D.
AND SO THE REPLENISHING OF
THAT STOCK HASN'T
HAPPENED.
AND THE BLACK COMMUNITIES
THAT ARE OUT THERE -- MANY
OF THEM HAVE CLOSED OR ARE
IN THE PROCESS OF CLOSING
DUE TO THE ECONOMY.
SO THAT INFRASTRUCTURE
THAT WAS THERE HAS BEEN
ELIMINATED.
AND SO THERE ARE NO SAFE
PLACES TO GO.
>> Rooney: I HOPE WE'RE
NOT GOING TO BE HAVING
THIS DISCUSSION FOR YEARS
TO COME.
CHIP GREENIDGE, THANK YOU
SO MUCH.
>> THANK YOU.
>> Rooney: WHEN WE
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