>> Rooney: 10 YEARS
AFTER IT WAS LAUNCHED,
ZIPCAR IS GOING PUBLIC.
THE CAMBRIDGE-BASED
CAR-SHARING PROGRAM ALLOWS
MEMBERS TO RENT CARS BY
THE HOUR OR DAY AT
CONVENIENT LOCATIONS
AROUND THE CITY AND
COLLEGE CAMPUSES.
ZIPCAR BOASTS MORE THAN
400,000 MEMBERS.
AND WHILE ITS REVENUES
OVER THE PAST FIVE YEARS
HAVE INCREASED BY 90%,
ZIPCAR HAS YET TO TURN A
PROFIT.
JOINING ME NOW IS BOSTON
HERALD BUSINESS EDITOR,
FRANK IARATELLO, AND
STEVEN FEINSTEIN.
THE MORE I READ, THE LESS
I FELT SORRY FOR THEM.
THEY'RE GETTING BIGGER AND
BIGGER.
SO IT IS JUST A MATTER OF
TIME BEFORE THEY TURN A
PROFIT.
>> ONE WOULD HOPE SO.
THEY'RE GROWN DRAMATICALLY
THROUGH ACQUISITION, AND
YOU'VE GOT ENDLESSLY THAT
THE MARKET FOR CAR SHARING
WOULD GROW EXPEDENTIALLY.
THEY HAVE A LOT OF ROOM TO
GROW IF YOU BUY INTO THEIR
BUSINESS PLAN.
>> Rooney: AND
NATIONWIDE, TOO.
I ASSUME THERE IS A TON OF
THESE OUTFITS AROUND THE
COUNTRY?
>> THERE ARE COMPETITORS,
AND YOU HAVE THE STANDARD
CAR RENTAL COMPANIES THAT
MAY POSE SOME OF THE
TOUGHEST COMPETITION
THEY'LL FACE, IN FACT.
>> Rooney: STEVEN, I
DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT
THIS BUSINESS, BUT I
THOUGHT, WOW, THEY MUST
HAVE ENORMOUS OVERHEAD.
PEOPLE THAT ARE RECKLESS
WITH THE CARS.
THEY GET INTO ACCIDENTS
AND DON'T REPORT THEM.
STOLEN VEHICLES, PEOPLE
NOT RETURNING THE CARS ON
TIME.
PEOPLE ABANDONING THEM IN
PLACES WHERE IT IS
INCONVENIENT TO PICK THEM
UP.
I LEFT IT HERE, AND I
THOUGHT I WAS SUPPOSED TO
LEAVE IT THERE.
WHAT A NIGHTMARE BUSINESS.
THAT'S GOT TO BE A PART OF
IT, DON'T YOU THINK?
>> NOT REALLY.
FOR THE MOST PART, THEY
BEAR THE COSTS OF OWNING
CARS JUST AS INDIVIDUAL
OWNERS WOULD.
BUT THEY SPREAD IT ACROSS
40 MEMBERS.
THEY'VE GOT 40 PEOPLE
SHARING EACH CAR.
WHEREAS WHEN YOU OWN A
CAR --
>> Rooney: BUT I'M A
LITTLE CAREFUL THE WAY I
PULL IT INTO MY GARAGE.
>> A LITTLE MORE CAREFUL
WITH YOUR OWN CAR.
BUT THEY HAVE A
PROFESSIONAL FLEET
MAINTENANCE.
SO THEY HAVE A NUMBER OF
ADVANTAGES THE THE
INDIVIDUAL OWNER DOESN'T
HAVE.
BUT THEY'VE SOLVED THE
COORDINATION PROBLEM OF
GETTING 40 PEOPLE TO SHARE
ONE CAR.
THERE IS HUGE VALUE IN
THAT.
AND THAT'S WHERE THE VALUE
IN THE COMPANY COMES FROM.
>> AND THEY HAVE
PROPRIETARY THINGS THAT
KEEPS PEOPLE FROM STEALING
THE CARS.
THEY HAVE LOW JACK.
THEY'VE SHUT THEM OFF AND
TRACKED THEM DOWN AND
BROUGHT THEM BACK TO WHERE
THEY SHOULD BE.
>> Rooney: IF OVERHEAD
IS NOT THE PROBLEM, WHY
ARE THEY $63.3 MILLION IN
DEBT?
>> WELL, MOST OF THE DEBT
WAS INCURRED OVER THE LAST
COUPLE OF YEARS.
AND THAT'S WHY THIS
I.P.O. IS TO DO, TO REDUCE
THAT DEBT.
IF THEY GET THAT DEBT,
THEY'RE EXPECTING TO PAY
OVER $40 MILLION OF THAT
DEBT.
THEY'LL WIPE OUT INTEREST
WHICH IS RESPONSIBLE FOR
MOST OF THEIR DEBT.
LAST YEAR'S LOSS IS ABOUT
A THIRD OF THE LOSS FROM
THE YEAR BEFORE.
AFTER THEY DO THIS I.P.O.,
IF THEY GET THEIR BUSINESS
EXPENSES DOWN, IT WILL BE
HALF OF THAT.
>> Rooney: THEY HOPE TO
GET ABOUT $$75 MILLION OFF
OF THE INITIAL OFFERING.
DOES IT BECOME A PUBLICLY
TRADED COMPANY?
>> IT IS.
IT IS A PUBLICLY TRADED
COMPANY.
THAT'S WHY AN I.P.O. IS.
THAT KICKS IT OFF.
THE EARLY INVESTOR, THE
VENTURE CAPITALISTS CAN
CASH OUT, AND THAT'S WHAT
A LOT OF VENTURE
CAPITALISTS DO.
AND THEN PEOPLE LIKE YOU
AND I, IF WE THINK THE
COMPANY IS GOING TO GROW,
WE BUY A PIECE OF IT AND
BECOME OWNERS, LIKE ANYONE
ON THE STOCK MARKET.
>> Rooney: THEN WHY NOT
DO THIS EARLIER?
WHY DID THEY WAIT 10 YEARS
TO DO THIS?
>> PART OF THE REASON IS
THAT THE ECONOMY HAS BEEN
REALLY BAD FOR THE LAST
COUPLE OF YEARS.
IDEALLY THEY WOULD HAVE
DONE IT A COUPLE OF YEARS
AGO.
AND PART OF THE REASON IS
THEY WANT TO BEEF UP THE
COMPANY AND GET IT
GROWING.
EVEN IF YOU'RE NOT TURNING
A PROFIT, YOU CAN SELL
THAT STORY.
I THINK THEY WERE WAITING
FOR A GOOD TIME, AND THEY
THINK NOW IS GETTING
CLOSER TO A GOOD TIME.
>> AND THE NUMBERS FOR
LAST YEAR, EVEN THOUGH IT
WAS A LOSS, WERE
SURPRISING GOOD.
>> Rooney: I KEEP
WONDERING HOW THIS WORKS,
IF YOU'RE BETTER OFF
RENTING A CAR FOR A DAY OR
IF YOU SHOULD DO A ZIPCAR?
>> I DON'T REALLY SEE
THEIR BIGGEST COMPETITION
AS BEING THE CAR RENTAL
AGENCIES.
I SEE THEIR BIGGEST
COMPETITION AS BEING A
FAMILY WITH TWO DRIVERS,
DECIDING BETWEEN HAVING
TWO CARS OR ONE CAR AND A
ZIPCAR MEMBERSHIP.
WHEN YOU SEE IT THAT WAY,
YOU CAN SEE ALL OF THE
HUGE ADVANTAGES FOR THE
BUSINESS MODEL FOR THE
FAMILY.
THEY DON'T HAVE THAT BIG
UPFRONT EXPENSE OF BUYING
A CAR.
>> Rooney: ESPECIALLY
FOR PEOPLE IN URBAN
ENVIRONMENTS.
>> THAT'S THEIR BIGGEST
FOCUS.
THE ZIPCAR MEMBERS CALLED
THEMSELVES ZIPSTERS, AND
MOST ARE VERY HAPPY WITH
THE SERVICE.
IT IS A YOUNGER, ONLINE
SET, THAT CAN GO ONLINE OR
USE THEIR PHONE AND BOOK A
CAR.
GO ON A TRIP, THEY COME
BACK AND PUT THEIR CAR
BACK, AND THEIR WORRIES
ARE GONE.
>> Rooney: HAVE EITHER
OF YOU LOOKED AT THE
ECONOMICS OF THIS?
HOW MUCH MONEY WOULD THE
AVERAGE USER SPEND?
WHAT DOES IT COST TO JOIN
THE CLUB?
>> $50 TO JOIN, AND THERE
IS AN ANNUAL MEMBERSHIP,
AND THERE IS A PER HOUR
RATE.
>> SO WHAT YOU DO IS PAY
AN APPLICATION FEE, WHICH
MIGHT BE $25.
AND AN ANNUAL MEMBERSHIP
FEE, AND EACH TIME YOU
WANT TO BOOK THE CAR, YOU
CAN BOOK IT ON AN HOURLY
BASIS OR A DAILY BASIS.
THEY'RE A LITTLE MORE
EXPENSIVE ON THE WEEKENDS.
>> THE STORY THEY'RE GOING
TO HAVE TO TELL TO SELL
THE STOCK, IT IS NOT
REALLY A CAR COMPANY.
IT IS A TECHNOLOGY
COMPANY.
AN INFORMATION COMPANY.
A SOFTER COMPANY.
THEY DEVISED THE SOLUTION
THAT ENABLES 40 PEOPLE TO
SHARE ONE CAR.
IF YOU THINK IN AMERICA WE
CONSUME TOO MUCH, WE OWN
TOO MUCH, THIS IS A
SOLUTION THAT IS STARTING
TO GAIN TRACTION.
PEOPLE SHOULD FIND
INFORMATION AND
COORDINATION SOLUTIONS SO
WE CAN GET BY WITH LESS
STUFF.
>> AND IT IS A GREEN
COMPANY.
THAT IS REALLY PART OF THE
STORY THEY'RE GOING TO
SELL --
>> Rooney: BECAUSE THEY
USE SMALL CARS --
>> THEY USE SMALLER CARS
AND THERE ARE FEWER CARS.
>> I UNDERSTAND THEY'RE
RENTING B.M.W.s, BUT
THERE ARE LESS CARS.
>> Rooney: BUT THE
PEOPLE WHO DIDN'T HAVE THE
TWO CARS HAVE THIS OPTION.
AND THE DROPS ARE ALL OVER
THE PLACE.
>> BUT IF PEOPLE DON'T
MAKE THAT PURCHASE OF THE
CAR, IF THEY'RE ZIPCAR
MEMBERS, THE TIME THEY
WOULDN'T USE A ZIPCAR,
THEY'LL USE PUBLIC
TRANSPORTATION OR THEY'LL
WALK.
WITHOUT HAVING OWNED CARS
THEMSELVES, THEY'RE LESS
LIKELY TO USE CARS.
>> AND FOR ANYONE THAT
OWNS A CAR KNOWS THAT MOST
OF THE TIME, THE CAR IS
SITTING IN A PARKING
SPACE.
WITH A ZIPCAR, YOU GET THE
CAR ON THE ROAD MORE
OFTEN, IT'S BEING USED
MORE OFTEN BY MORE PEOPLE.
MORE PEOPLE CAN USE FEWER
CARS.
IF YOU THINK YOU'RE SAVING
THE PLANET BY RECYCLING
CANS, THINK HOW MUCH
BETTER YOU'RE DOING BY NOT
BUYING A WHOLE CAR.
WHEN PEOPLE SEE THAT AS
PART OF THE GREEN
EQUATION, THEY'LL SEE
WHERE THE GREEN PART OF
THE COMPANY COMES FROM.
IT IS NOT REALLY FROM
SAVING FUEL AND CARBON
EMISSIONS, BECAUSE THE
DRIVING, IF THE PROGRAM
WORKS, WILL BE JUST AS
MUCH.
BUT FROM FEWER CARS BEING
MANUFACTURED.
>> Rooney: I HOPE IT
WORKS.
STEPHEN AND FRANK, THANK
YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING.
>> THANK YOU FOR HAVING
US.
>> Rooney: WHEN WE
CONTINUE, A DRAMATIC
COMEBACK FOR A LANDMARK
BOSTON THEATER.