June 17, 2010: Murders in Winchester

>> Rooney: TONIGHT ON "GREATER

BOSTON," A FATHER ARRESTED IN

THE MASSACRE OF HIS WINCHESTER

FAMILY.

PLUS THE CONTROVERSY OVER COST.

HOW AFFORDABLE IS WIND-GENERATED

ENERGY.

CAPE WIND'S JIM GORDON IS HERE

AND A LOOK AT CREATURES ON

FLIGHT AND BIRDOLOGY.

>> Rooney: GOOD EVENING.

FOUR COUNTS OF MURDER.

THAT IS WHAT THOMAS MORTIMER IV

IS FACING AFTER HIS WIFE AND

MOTHER-IN-LAW AND TWO CHILDREN

WERE FOUND INSIDE MURDERED AND

WAS APPREHENDED WESTERN

MASSACHUSETTS TOWN AND JERRY

LEONE HAS MORE ON HOW HE WAS

CAUGHT.

>> HE'S NOW IN CUSTODY AND

CHARGED WITH A BRUTAL HORRIFIC

MURDERS OF FOUR MEMBERS OF HIS

FAMILY.

>> Rooney: YESTERDAY LEONE

COULDN'T HIDE HIS EMOTIONS AFTER

EXITING THE SCENE OF THE CRIME.

>> AFTER MAKING OBSERVATIONS IT

WAS HORRIFIC, DISTURBING AND

UNSPEAKABLE.

>> Rooney: WHAT THEY FOUND

INSIDE THE WINCHESTER HOME IN

WIND SONG LANE WAS THE MURDERED

BODIES OF TWO-YEAR-OLD CHARLOTTE

AND FOUR-YEAR-OLD THOMAS.

THEY'RE MOTHER, LAURA

STONE-MORTIMER AND ELLEN STONE

WAS ALSO KILLED AND TODAY HE WAS

CAUGHT AND CHARGED HIM IN THE

QUADRUPLE KILLING.

NEIGHBORS ARE STUNNED.

>> YOU FEEL LIKE IT'S FAMILY.

YOU GET SO UPSET.

>> WE'RE ALL IN COMPLETE SHOCK.

>> Rooney: MORTIMER WAS

UNEMPLOYED FOR A YEAR BEFORE

FINDING WORK AS A SENIOR SALES

ACCOUNT EXECUTIVE.

HIS NEW BOSS SAID HES WITH A

MODEL EMPLOYEE.

>> NICE GUY AND DOING WELL AND

LEARNING HIS ROPES.

>> Rooney: IT EVOKES COMPARISON

TO RACHEL AND LILLIAN ENTWISTLE

AND THE FATHER WAS FOUND GUILTY

AND SENTENCED TO LIFE IN PRISON.

>> Rooney: AND JOINING ME IS A

FORENSIC SPECIALIST AND WENDY

MURPHY.

ROBERT, AS DISTRICT ATTORNEY

JERRY LEONE SAID APPARENTLY

THERE WERE SIGNS IN THE HOUSE

THAT MORTIMER TRIED TO COMMIT

SUICIDE AND TOOK OFF IN THE CAR

AND THROUGH ALL POINTS BULLETIN

AND THROUGH ALL METHODS THE

POLICE CHIEF JUST HAPPENED TON

TRACKING AROUND AND SAW HIS

LICENSE PLATE AND MADE CHASE IN

TRAFFIC AND GOT HIM.

>> IT'S UNFORTUNATE FIRST OF ALL

SUCH TO TRAGIC TO HEAR AND AS WE

WERE LEARNING ABOUT THE CASE

OVER THE PAST 24 HOURS THERE WAS

A LOT OF SHOCK ABOUT THIS

IDEALIC HOME AND A FATHER AND

MOTHER AND MOTHER-IN-LAW AND TWO

KIDS AND NEIGHBORS SAID

EVERYTHING SEEMED WONDERFUL.

EVERYTHING WAS GREAT.

BUT THE MORE WE STARTED TO THINK

ABOUT THE TYPE OF CRIME AND THE

MORE WE STARTED TO LOOK BACK AT

WHAT WE KNOW ABOUT THESE KINDS

OF SITUATIONS, FAMILY MURDERS

AND UNFORTUNATELY NOW HEARING

THE PRESS CONFERENCE THIS

AFTERNOON IT'S VERY CLEAR THAT

UNFORTUNATELY WAS A VERY TYPICAL

SITUATION.

>> Rooney: FINANCIAL WOES.

>> THE FAMILY ANNIHILATORS IT'S

GROWN TO BE KNOWN IS

UNFORTUNATE.

.

HE FITS THE CRITERIA A MALE IN

HIS 40s TRYING TO PROVIDE FOR

HIS FAMILY, FINANCIAL

DIFFICULTIES THEN MARITAL

DISCOURSE THAT FOLLOWS.

PROBABLY NOT GETTING HE HELP HE

NEEDED TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO

PROCEED FROM NOW AND THERE MAY

BE MORE INFORMATION TO COME SOME

EVENT THAT PUSHES HIM OVER THE

EDGE.

BUT THIS ISN'T THAT JUST HAPPENS

THAT DAY.

>> Rooney: AND GIVING THE NOTES

CLAIMING RESPONSIBILITY,

DISTRICT ATTORNEY JERRY LEONE

ALSO SAID THAT HE STABBED AND

BLUDGEONED THE PEOPLE TO DEATH.

AT BLUNT FORCE TRAMA.

A VERY PERSONAL WAY.

>> IT STRUCK ME -- WE ALL WANTED

TO KNOW HOW DID THEY DIE HOW DID

A FATHER KILL HIS ENTIRE FAMILY

ESPECIALLY A TWO AND

FOUR-YEAR-OLD.

>> Rooney: ONE WAS IN A CRIB.

>> AND TO IMAGINE -- I GUESS

ENTWISTLE USED A GUN AND MAYBE

THE COWARD'S WAY OUT IT'S QUICK

AND THIS TAKES SO MUCH ENERGY

AND THE BLOOD AT THE SCENE WAS

DESCRIBED AS PROLIFIC.

IN SOME WAYS I THINK WE HAVE TO

BE VERY CAREFUL NOT TO SAY OH,

WHAT WAS HE GOING THROUGH THE

POOR SNAPPED AND THE STRESS AND

NO JOB AND MAYBE SHE WAS GETTING

ON HIM ABOUT NOT HAVING A JOB.

THERE'S ZERO EXCUSE AND THE

AMOUNT OF VIOLENCE BETWEEN MEN

AGAINST WOMEN AND THE EXECUTION

OF ESPECIALLY WOMEN LESS

FREQUENTLY BUT NOT ALTOGETHER

RARE OF THE KIDS AS THE WAY OUT

OF YOUR MISERY, ARE YOU KIDDING

ME?

>> Rooney: WE HAD A NUMBER OF

THOSE CASES IN MASSACHUSETTS.

>> ALMOST EPIDEMIC AND WE WAY

IT'S HANDLED I'M GOING SUGGEST

IT'S PART THEIR PROBLEM BECAUSE

WE DECRIMINALIZE THE EARLY

STAGES IF THE WOMAN WANTS TO

DROP THE CHARGES WE DROP THE

CHARGES AND WE MAKE IT SEEMS

LIKE THE EARLY STAGE FITS OF

VIOLENCE IS OKAY AND WHEN THE

EXPLOSION HAPPENS AND WE SAY

WHAT RED FLAGS DID WE MISS --

>> Rooney: WE DON'T KNOW WHETHER

THERE WERE SIGNS AT ALL.

>> I'M TALKING CULTURELY AND

SYSTEMCALLY AND START GOING

CRIMINAL ABOUT THE EARLY RED

FLAGS.

>> THAT'S A GREAT POINT WENDY'S

BRINGING UP.

THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE AND

FAMILIES THAT GO THROUGH THIS

BUT NOT ALL GO HOME AND KILL

THEIR FAMILIES.

WHAT'S IMPORTANT IS THE EARLY

INTERVENTION PART OF THIS THING

AND IF YOU DON'T STOP IT IT'S

HARD TO STOP DOWN THE ROAD

BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW ENOUGH TO

JUMP IN AT THE LAST MINUTE.

YOU DON'T SAVE PEOPLE IN THE

LAST MINUTE IN THESE TYPES OF

CRIMES AND WE NEED TO

AGGRESIVELY INTERVENE BECAUSE

ONCE IT GETS PAST A POINT IT'S

HARD TO STOP.

>> Rooney: HE WAS UNEMPLOYED AND

I'M THINKING OF ENTWISTLEAL AND

YOU LISTEN TO THE BOSS AND HE

SAID MORTIMER WAS A GOOD WORKER

AND CAME TO WORK BUT IT'S AN

INCOME AND A START.

>> WE DON'T KNOW HIS PERCEPTION.

HE'D BEEN OUT OF WORK FOR A

YEAR.

HIS WIFE WAS GETTING ALONG -- I

KNOW THERE WAS PRESSURE TO BUY A

HOME.

>> Rooney: BECAUSE I THINK IT

WAS THE MOTHER-IN-LAW'S HOME.

>> HERE HER HAS A FAMILY AND

STARTING TO SAY TO MYSELF HOW AM

I GOING TO DO THIS AND THE OTHER

THING IS WE CAN'T UNDERESTIMATE

HOW MUCH BUILT UP BEFORE THIS

POINT AND THE RELATIONSHIP MAY

HAVE DETERIORATED TO A POINT

WHERE TWO WEEKS MAY NOT HAVE

BEEN SUFFICIENT TO GET HIM

PASSED THIS POINT.

>> THIS THIS IS ALL ABOUT HIS

MIDLIFE CRISIS HE THOUGHT HE'D

BE A SUPER MILLION HE'S MORTIMER

IV AND MAYBE HE HAD PRESSURE TO

BE SOMETHING BUT TOO BAD YOU

CAN'T KILL YOUR FAMILY BECAUSE

YOU'RE EGO ISN'T WELL THIS WEEK

AND THAT'S WHAT SO BAD ABOUT OUR

CULTURE THE POOR GUYS IS UNDER

PRESSURE AND THE WIFE IS GETTING

ON HIM, I WANTED TO MARRY A

SUCCESSFUL MAN, YOU'RE A LOSER.

DIVORCE HER.

>> IT TIES INTO POTENTIAL -- I

KNOW WE'RE LOOKING FAR DOWN THE

LINE BUT POTENTIAL DEFENSES.

BECAUSE AS WENDY'S SUGGESTING

THEY'RE NOT CRAZY PEOPLE.

THESE ARE PEOPLE FACING STRESSES

OF EVERY DAY LIFE AND TRYING TO

GET THROUGH THEM AND SOMETHING

ABOUT THEM SAYS I CAN'T GET

THROUGH IT AND RATIONLY DECIDE I

HAVE TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT

AND IT MAKES IT DIFFICULT TO

BUILD AS AN INSANITY DEFENSE.

>> Rooney: THERE WERE TWO

SUICIDE NOTES VIRTUALLY

IDENTENTICAL.

I DON'T KNOW WHY THERE WERE TWO

AND LEAVE AT THE SCENE OF THE

CRIME AND THEN ATTEMPTS

ACCORDING TO POLICE AND EVIDENCE

OF AN ATTEMPT OF SUICIDE AGAINST

HIMSELF, YOU KNOW, SUICIDE,

DIDN'T CARRY IT OUT.

A LOT OF PEOPLE DO THOUGH WENDY

>> THEY DO AND I'M NOT GOING TO

MAKE A JUDGMENT ON SUICIDE

VERSUS HOMICIDE AND ONE THING

YOU HOPE YOU CAN COMMENT IS WE

THINK OF PEOPLE AS BEING

SUICIDAL AS IN THE BEING

HOMICIDAL BUT THEY ARE.

IT TAKES A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF

DYSFUNCTION TO KILL YOURSELF OR

OTHERS AND IN DOMESTIC VIOLENCE

CASES IN DOING ASSESSMENTS WHICH

A GREAT AND IMPORTANT NEW SKILL

WE HAVE WHERE WE'RE MUCH MORE

ABLE THAN EVER BEFORE TO LOOK

BEFORE THE HOMICIDE AND THE RED

FLAGS AND LOOK AT THE PERSON

WHERE WE HAVE A 90% OF SEEING IT

REACH A HOMICIDE OR SUICIDE AND

SEEING THE CORRELATION BETWEEN

THE TWO AND UNDERSTANDING THAT

NOT ALL BATTERERS KILL AND WE

KNOW HOW TO PREDICT BETTER WHICH

ONES WILL AND WHAT DID THIS GUY

DO IN THE PAST TO HAVE HIM IN

MENTAL HEALTH CARE OR NOT.

>> Rooney: WINCHESTER POLICE SAY

THERE WAS NO RECORD WITH THEM.

>> IT DOESN'T MEAN THERE WASN'T

A MENTAL HEALTH CRISIS OR OTHER

ISSUES AND PEOPLE WHO ARE

WILLING TO KILL THEMSELVES ARE

CAPABLE OF MORE AND I BET WE'LL

HEAR MORE ABOUT HIM HAVING

EMOTIONAL TROUBLE.

HE'S GOT TO COME UP WITH AN

INSANITY DEFENSE.

>> Rooney: IN THE ENTWISTLE CASE

WAS PREMEDICATED HE STOLE A GUN

FROM IN-LAWS AND STABBING OR

BLUDGEONING OR POUNDING LITTLE

CHILDREN IT SOUNDS UNDERSTATED

BUT VERY PERSONAL.

>> I THINK THOUGH THAT IT WOULD

BE HARD TO FORMULATE THIS CASE

BY THINKING THAT HE WENT HOME

EVERYTHING WAS FINE BEFORE THAT

AND IN THE HE BLUDGEONED FOUR

PEOPLE IN THE HOME.

I THINK THIS WAS A SERIES OF BAD

THINGS THAT HAPPENED.

HE WASN'T MANAGING THEM AND THIS

WAS THE FINAL STRAW AND MAYBE

NOT PLANNED FOR THAT MOMENT BUT

CERTAINLY IT WAS MOVING IN THAT

DIRECTION.

>> Rooney: HORRIBLE CASE.

ROBERT MENDOZA AND WENDY MURPHY

THANK YOU FOR COMING.

WHEN WE CONTINUE THE CONTROVERSY

OVER THE COST OF WIND POWER.