WHEN WE CONTINUE, DUMP 'EM,
HOW THE GET RID OF A PESKY
FRIEND, LAWYER, HOUSEKEEPER OR
ANY OTHER PLATONIC
RELATIONSHIP.
HAVE YOU HER WANTED TO JUST
END IT WITH SOMEONE WHO WORKS
FOR YOU, SAY A GARDNER OR
HOUSEKEEPER OR HOW ABOUT YOUR
LAWYER OR ACCOUNTANT?
NOW YOU'VE GOT A GUIDE, DUMP
'EM, HOW TO BREAK UP WITH
ANYONE FROM YOUR BEST FRIEND
TO YOUR HAIRDRESSER.
AND AUTHOR JODYNE SPEYER IS
HERE.
WELCOME.
>> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.
>> I WENT RIGHT TO THE SECTION
ON HOW DO YOU BREAK UP WITH A
FRIEND.
THAT'S HARDER THAN YOUR
MANICURE IS.
>> WITHOUT A DOUBT, BREAKING
UP WITH YOUR FRIEND, I ALSO
HAVE A CHAPTER ON BREAKING UP
WITH YOUR FAMILY.
WHO WANTS TO END A
RELATIONSHIP WITH A FRIEND,
IT'S NOT EASY.
>> SOMETIMES I FIND MYSELF,
I'M ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE WHO
HAS TAKE TEN EASY WAY OUT,
LIKE WEANING MYSELF AWAY, NOT
RESPONDING TO E-MAILS OR PHONE
CALLS AND JUST PUTTING TIME
BETWEEN IT.
>> A CLASSIC AVOIDER.
I WROTE THIS BOOK BECAUSE I
HAD NO IDEA HOW TO DO IT.
I WOULD RATHER HIRE A SECOND
HOUSE KEEPER BECAUSE I
COULDN'T DUMP THE FIRST
HOUSEKEEPER.
IT'S HARD TO ACTUALLY BREAK UP
WITH SOMEONE, AND REALLY NO
ONE HAS EVER UTAH US HOW TO DO
IT.
THEY TEACH YOU HOW TO BREAK UP
WITH A BOYFRIEND OR
GIRLFRIEND.
BUT WHO HAS TAUGHT US HOW TO
DUMP SOMEONE OTHER THAN A
ROMANTIC --
>> THIS IS REALLY ABOUT
CONFRONTATION WHICH MOST
PEOPLE CANNOT DO.
IT'S A VERY ANXIOUS FEELING
WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT SOMEONE
IN THE EYE IN BEING HONEST
WITH THEM.
>> I THINK CONFRONTATION HAS A
NEGATIVE ATTACHMENT TO IT, AND
I HATE TO USE THAT WORD,
BECAUSE IT'S LIKE SPEAKING UP
AND HONORING YOUR OWN FEELINGS
IS SOMETHING POSITIVE.
AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT
THAT WE LEARN HOW TO DO IT
PROPERLY, WHICH IS WHY I WROTE
THE BOOK, I WANTED TO FINE A
WAY THAT PEOPLE COULD END
RELATIONSHIPS BEING KIND AND
RESPECTFUL.
>> I WON'T SAY LIE, BUT SOME
OF IT IS, YOU KNOW, YOU GIVE
PEOPLE A REASON, WITHOUT
TELLING THEM, BECAUSE I DON'T
LIKE YOU ANY MORE OR YOU DO A
LOUSY JOB, BUT YOU GIVE THEM A
REASON.
GIVE ME AN EXAMPLE.
>> YEAH.
A REASON IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE
I WAS THE PERSON THAT WOULDN'T
GIVE A REASON, I THINK,
SIMILAR TO YOU, I WOULD JUST
LET THEM SLIP AWAY OR NOT
RETURN THEIR PHONE CALLS IS AN
EASY ONE.
BY NOT TELLING THEM WHAT THEY
DID, YOU MAY THINK YOU'RE
PROTECTING THEM, BUT YOU'RE
REALLY HURTING THEIR FEELINGS
BECAUSE THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT
THEY DID.
SO THEY'LL GO THROUGH THEIR
LIFE THINKINGS, WELL, WHY
DIDN'T HE CALL ME BACK AND IT
IS IMPORTANT TO GIVE THEM THAT
HEADS UP.
>> I WAS THINKING THAT PEOPLE
LIKE WOMEN IN PARTICULAR ARE
VERY FICKLE WHEN IT COMES TO
THEIR HAIRDRESSER OR THEIR
MANICURIST.
DON'T MOST PEOPLE JUST WALK
AWAY AND DON'T GIVE MY REASON
WHATSOEVER?
>> RIGHT.
>> BYE, DONE.
YOU SAW THE PERSON FOR THE
LAST TIME, THEY'RE GONE.
>> RIGHT, AND THAT'S THE EASY
THING TO DO.
I THINK IT'S FEAR, WE DON'T
WANT TO HURT SOMEONE'S
FEELINGS, BUT IT'S REALLY
OURSELVES THAT WE'RE HURTING.
I'M A BIG ADVOCATE, GIVE THEM
A HEADS UP, LET THEM KNOW THAT
SOMETHING IS NOT RIGHT IN THAT
RELATIONSHIP SOX THAT YOUR
HAIR DRUGSER, LET'S SAY, LET
THEM KNOW THAT YOU'RE NOT,
LIKE IF YOU'RE GROWING YOUR
HAIR OUT --
>> AND THEY KEEP CHOPPING IT
OFF.
>> TELL THEM, LOOK I'M GROWING
MY LATER OUT AND YOU'RE
CUTTING IT HERE E. BUT IF IT A
FRIEND, A SIMILAR SITUATION,
YOU DON'T LIKE THIS FRIEND OR
THE FRIEND IS BOTHERING YOU,
LET THEM KNOW THAT IF THIS
DOESN'T CHANGE, YOU'RE GOING
TO END THE RELATIONSHIP.
BECAUSE THAT PREPARES THEM FOR
WHEN YOU ACTUALLY DO DUMP
THEM.
YOU CAN SAY HEY, I MENTIONED
THIS BEFORE AND I ALSO THINK
YOU SAID ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THIS
IS AN UNCOMFORTABLE
CONVERSATION TO HAVE, SO SAY
THIS IS NOT EASY TO SAY, BUT I
HAVE GIVEN YOU THIS KIND OF
WARNING THAT THINGS AREN'T
RIGHT.
SO I'VE MADE THE DIFFICULT
DECISION TO END THINGS.
YOU REALLY WANT TO KEEP THINGS
SHORT AND SWEET, LIKE REALLY
REHEARSE AHEAD OF TIME WHAT
YOU'RE GOING TO SAY. SO THAT
YOU STAY ON POINT, BECAUSE THE
BIGGEST MISTAKE THAT PEOPLE DO,
ESPECIALLY WOMEN, IS WE START
TO KIND OF END THE
RELATIONSHIP, AND THEN WE BACK
PEDDLE, WE FEEL BAD, WE START
MAKING EXCUSES, WE A OH DON'T
TAKE THIS PERSONALLY.
BUT THAT DISCREDIT WHAT IS
YOU'RE SAYING, THEY SHOULD
TAKE IT PERSONALLY.
YOU ARE ENDING THE
RELATIONSHIP.
BUT IF YOU REHEARSE AND GO
THROUGH THE STEPS I TALK ABOUT
IN DUMP 'EM, IT EASY TO DO.
I DON'T WANT TO SAY EASY, IT'S
NOT EASY.
>> ONE OF THE THINGS THAT
CAUGHT MY ATTENTION WAS ABOUT
WHEN YOU GET INTO A SITUATIONS
WHERE YOU JUST DON'T WANT TO
BE THERE, YOU DON'T WANT TO BE
PART OF IT.
YOU USE THE EXAMPLE OF HAVING
FRIENDS OF YOUNG KID AND THEN
THE OTHER MOTHER WANTS TO COME
OVER AND CHAT WITH YOU OR
WANTS TO START BEFRIENDING YOU
AND TAKING YOUR TIME WHILE THE
KIDS ARE PLAYING, THIS IS A
SITUATION YOU JUST DON'T WANT
TO BE PART OF.
HOW DO YOU SAY LOOK, I HAVE
ALL THE FRIENDS IN THE WORLD I
NEED, WAY WANT TO BE GARDENING
THIS AFTERNOON, I DON'T WANT
TO SIT HERE AND CHAT WHILE THE
KIDS ARE PLAYING AND THAT'S --
A LOT OF PEOPLE LET THEMSELVES
GET DRAWN INTO THAT.
>> SURE, AND PEOPLE CAN BE
ENERGY SUCKERS AND I DO HAVE A
CHAPTER ABOUT DUMPING YOUR
KIDS' FRIENDS PARENTS.
AND I THINK IN THOSE
SITUATIONS IT'S IMPORTANT AND
ALSO A TOXIC FRIEND, HAVE YOU
TO TAKE CONTROL OF THE
CONVERSATION.
SO IF THIS PERSON IS ACTING IN
A TOXIC WAY OR A WAY THAT
YOU'RE NOT COMFORTABLE WITH,
LET THEM KNOW, TAKE CONTROL OF
THAT CONVERSATION.
LET THEM KNOW I'M NOT
COMFORTABLE WITH THIS.
YOU HAVE TO LEARN TO PEEK UP
AND NIP THINGS IN THE BUD.
>> PEOPLE HAVE A HARD TIME
SAYING NO.
I WAS GIVING A FRIEND OF MINE
A REALLY HARD TIME LAST
WEEKEND BECAUSE IT WAS 4TH OF
JULY WEEKEND AND IT WAS NOON
AND WE WERE PLAYING TENNIS AND
SHE SAID SHE WAS GOING TO
DRIVE AN HOUR TO ALBANY, NEW
YORK TO GO TO A FRIEND'S BABY
SHOWER.
I SAID WHAT?
HOW CAN YOU, IT'S THE FIRST
NICE DAY WE'VE HAD IN SIX
WEEKS AND YOU'RE GOING TO
DRIVE TO --
SHE SHOULD HAVE SAID THIS IS A
TERRIBLE TIME OF DAY AND I'LL
SEND A GIFT.
>> CALL THEM UP, SAY NOT AN
EASY CONVERSATION TO HAVE, I'M
AN HOUR, HOUR AND A HALF AWAY
INFLUENCE, I CAN'T WAIT TO SEE
YOU, BUT I'M NOT GOING TO BE
ABLE TO MAKE IT. SO WORK ON
THAT TONE.
>> CAN'T YOU TELL SOMEBODY
THAT YOU'VE CREATED AN
ENVIRONMENT LIKE NOON ON A
SUNDAY THAT IT'S NOT
CONVENIENT FOR PEOPLE, OR IS
THAT RUDE TO SAY?
THIS IS A TERRIBLE TIME TO
HAVE A PARTY.
>> AS LONG AS YOU SPEAK UP,
IT'S OKAY.
THE POINT OF THE BOOK IS, BE
KIND, BE RESPECT FPL, BE
HUMOROUS.
I TRIED TO INCLUDE A LOT OF
HUMOR.
AND I THINK PEOPLE RESPOND
WELL TO TRUTH.
I THINK THEY DON'T RESPOND
WHEN YOU LIE TO THEM OR GO
BEHIND THEIR BACK OR AVOID
THEM.
SO IF YOU NEED TO BE DIRECT,
AND I WISH I COULD TAKE SOME
OF YOUR DIRECTNESS, BECAUSE
I'M NOT THAT DIRECT, IT'S
GREAT, SAY IT.
AS LONG AS YOU SPEAK UP,
THAT'S THE POINT OF DUMP 'EM.
>> GOING BACK TO THE
FRIENDSHIP THING THOUGH, WE
TALK ABOUT THIS ALL THE TIME,
LIKE FIRING A FRIEND WHEN
YOU'VE COME TO A POINT WHERE
YOU DON'T ARE ANYTHING IN
COMMON OR YOU DON'T REALLY
ENJOY THE COMPANY, AND THE
OTHER PERSON, IT'S NOT LIKE
THEY'RE IN YOUR LIFE ALL THE
TIME, BUT YOU REALLY JUST WANT
TO ELIMINATE THEM, AND IT'S
NOT LIKE YOU HAVE TO HAVE A
FORMAL CONVERSATION, OR DO
YOU?
>> I THINK YOU JUST BUY THE
BOOK, CHAPTER 12, HOW TO DUMP
A FRIEND AND YOU FIND IT.
HAVE YOU TO HAVE A
CONVERSATION.
I ALSO THINK THAT I'M NOT A
FAN OF TEXT MESSAGING OR
TWEELTING OR FACE BOOKING, BUT
IF IT'S A FRIEND THAT REALLY
DOES SUCK YOUR ENERGY DRY, AND
AS MUCH AS I TALKED EARLIER
ABOUT TAKING CONTROL OF THE
CONVERSATION, IF IT'S SOMEONE
THAT YOU REALLY FEEL YOU CAN'T
TAKE CONTROL OF THAT
CONVERSATION, I'M FINE WITH
WRITING A LETTER.
BUT AS LONG AS YOU PUT IT DOWN
ON PAPER OR SAY IT TO THEM.
BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT TO, AS
TOXIC AS THEY MAY BE, THEY'RE
PROBABLY INJURED OR DAMAGED IN
THEIR OWN WAY, YOU HAVE TO SAY
SOMETHING.
SO IF YOU CAN'T DO IT IN
PERSON, WRITE A LETTER.
BUT GET IT DONE AND ALWAYS
REMEMBER TO BE KIND, USE THE
HUMOR IF YOU CAN USE IT, BUT
GIVE THEM A REASON.
YOU DON'T ARE TO GO INTO
LECTURES, YOU DON'T HAVE TO
CHANGE WHO THEY ARE.
YOU'RE JUST SAYING IT'S NOT
WORKING FOR ME, I'M SORRY.
>> THANKS SO MUCH THAT IS IT
FOR "GREATER BOSTON".
TOMORROW ON BEAT THE PRESS,
THE ENDLESS MICHAEL JACKSON
COVERAGE, THE POSSIBLE END OF
THE BAY STATE BANNER, AND THE
END OF SARAH PALIN'S GOVERNANCE.
THAT AND MORE TOMORROW AT
7:00.
I'M EMILY ROONEY.
GOOD NIGHT.
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