>> Rooney: MASSACHUSETTS
REPUBLICANS ARE FLUSH WITH
CONFIDENCE THESE DAYS,
BUOYED BY SCOTT BROWN'S
SENATE WIN AND THE
PROSPECT OF RETAKEING THE
GOVERNOR'S OFFICE.
THEY WERE CONFIDENT IN
2004 WHEN THEN GOVERNOR
MITT ROMNEY TRIED TO ROLL
BACK DEMOCRATIC DOMINANCE
AND BEACON HILL.
THAT YEAR THE G.O.P. LOST
SEATS, BUT REPUBLICANS SAY
THIS FALL WILL BE
DIFFERENT.
THE STATE REPUBLICAN
CONVENTION IN WORCESTER
WAS A CORONATION FOR
CHARLIE BAKER, WHERE HE
EASILY WON HIS PARTY'S
ENDORSEMENT FOR GOVERNOR.
>> IF YOU BELIEVE, LIKE
ME, THAT MASSACHUSETTS
CANNOT AFFORD FOUR MORE
YEARS OF TAX AND SPEND
MEDIOCRITY, THAT YOU, THE
PEOPLE OF THIS STATE,
DESERVE A MORE ACCOUNTABLE
AND RESPONSIVE GOVERNMENT
THAN THE ONE YOU WANT NOW,
THEN YOU SHOULD VOTE FOR
ME.
>> Rooney: SOME LESSER
KNOWN CANDIDATES ALSO
TAPPED INTO THE PARTIES
NEW RUN.
SHE SAYS THERE IS REASON
TO RUN IN THE FOOTSTEPS OF
G.O.P. DARLING SENATOR
SCOTT BROWN.
>> SCOTT BROWN IS VERY
MUCH A PERSON LIKE ME WHO
UNDERSTOOD IN HIS CORE
THERE IS SOMETHING GOING
ON AMONG THE PEOPLE.
>> Rooney: EVEN THOSE
CANDIDATES LESS INCLINED
TO REPLICATE BROWN, THEY
AGREED BROWN'S WIN BEARS A
CRUCIAL LESSON.
>> THAT'S THE ONE THING
THAT SENATOR BROWN SHOWED
US, WAS THAT THERE IS
NOTHING MORE POWERFUL THAN
HAVING THE RIGHT MESSAGE
AND THE RIGHT ISSUES AT
THE RIGHT TIME.
WE TRULY DO HAVE THAT.
>> Rooney: AND SHESEL
SAYS THE CONTRAST BETWEEN
THIS YEAR AND 2004 WHEN
REPUBLICANS MAIN A BIG
PUSH TO GAIN GROUND IS
STARK.
>> I THINK THE MAJOR
DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 2004
AND 2010 IS WHERE THE
MOMENTUM IS COMING FROM.
IN 2004 IT WAS COMING FROM
THE TOP DOWN, FROM
GOVERNOR ROMNEY.
I THINK THIS YEAR IT IS
TRULY COMING FROM THE
LOCAL LEVELS.
>> Rooney: WHETHER THAT
DIFFERENCE WILL MEAN WINS
THIS NOVEMBER IS AN OPEN
QUESTION.
BUT THE MESSAGE THAT THE
G.O.P. IS DOWN RIGHT
FOOLISH ABOUT ITS
PROSPECTS.
JOINING ME ARE ADAM
REILLY, AND G.O.P.
CONGRESSIONAL CANDIDATE
JON GOLNIK.
YOU GAVE UP A RAINY SUNDAY
TO ATTEND THE REPUBLICAN
CONVENTION.
THIS IS SORT OF LIKE THE
OLD-FASHIONED CONVENTIONS
WHERE STUFF REALLY
HAPPENED AND PEOPLE GOT
RILED UP.
>> COMPARED TO SOME OF THE
NATIONAL CONVENTIONS --
THERE WAS A QUESTION IF
CHRISTIE MYHOS WAS GOING
TO MAKE THE BALLOT.
HE ENDED UP NOT MAKING THE
BALLOT.
THE SENSE OF ENERGY WAS
REALLY PALPABLE.
YOU GOT THE IMPRESSION
THAT STATE REPUBLICANS ARE
VERY CONFIDENT THEY'RE
GOING TO PICK UP SEATS IN
NOVEMBER.
AND ALSO THEY'RE
EXPERIENCING SORT OF
FIRSTHAND THE REINVENTION
OF WHAT IT MEANS TO BE A
MASSACHUSETTS REPUBLICAN.
THAT WAS PALPABLE ALL
ACROSS THE CONVENTION HALL
ON SATURDAY.
>> Rooney: YOU'RE
RUNNING AGAINST NIKI
TSONGAS.
RIGHT NOW OR CONGRESSIONAL
DELEGATION IS ALL
DEMOCRATIC.
WE HAVE A SENATOR,
DEMOCRATIC, AND A
REPUBLICAN PARTY FOR THE
FIRST TIME.
TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT
HOW YOU FELT ENERGIZED BY
THIS GATHERING.
AND WAS THERE A UNIFIED
MESSAGE THAT EVERYBODY IS
ON HERE?
>> YOU KNOW, I THINK THERE
WAS A LOT OF ENERGY THERE.
AND I THINK THAT THIS IS
LARGELY BEING DRIVEN BY
SCOTT BROWN'S ELECTION
BACK IN JANUARY.
I THINK THAT SCOTT BROWN'S
ELECTION PROVED TO VOTERS
FOR THE FIRST TIME IN A
LONG TIME THAT THEIR VOTE
DOES COUNT.
A LOT OF VOTERS ARE FEEG
DISENFRANCHISED, AND THEY
DON'T HAVE A VOICE.
SO IT IS AN EXCITING PLACE
TO BE.
>> DORIS: FOR SCOTTBROWN -- .
>> Rooney: FOR SCOTT
BROWN, THERE WAS A LOT OF
THINGS THAT HAPPENED.
MARTHA COAKLEY WAS
CRITICIZED FOR RUNNING A
MON TONE, VISIONLESS
CAMPAIGN AND SOME REGARDS.
SCOTT BROWN, THE BARN
JACKET.
THE HANDSOME, YOU KNOW --
HE HAD THE HEALTH CARE
BILL ISSUE TO GRAB ON TO.
I MEAN, IT IS NOT SO EASY
TO RIDE ON TO SOMEBODY'S
COAT TAILS.
>> IT ISN'T.
PEOPLE LIKE TO ASK ME IF
I'M A SCOTT BROWN
REPUBLICAN.
AND MY ANSWER IS THAT IS
I'M A JON GOLNIK
REPUBLICAN.
I DON'T THINK THERE IS ANY
REPUBLICAN THAT WILL AGREE
WITH ANY OTHER REPUBLICAN
ON EVERY SINGLE ISSUE.
SO, YOU KNOW, I TELL
PEOPLE I'M GOING TO RUN MY
OWN RACE.
THE MOST IMPORTANT THING
I'M GOING TO FOCUS ON IS
LISTENING TO THE PEOPLE.
>> IT IS WORTH KNOWING
THAT A LOT OF THE
CANDIDATES, INCLUDING YOU,
I'M SURE, HAD MADE THE
DECISION TO RUN BEFORE
SCOTT BROWN.
WHICH, I THINK, TO MY MIND
MAKES IT MORE CREDIBLE,
THE ARGUMENT THERE IS
REALLY SOMETHING AFOOT
HERE, A GRASSROOTS FORMAT
GOING ON.
IF YOU JUST DECIDED TO RUN
BECAUSE SCOTT BROWN GOT IN
AND YOU THOUGHT YOU COULD
GIVE IT A SHOT, THEN IT
WOULD SEEM LIKE A
KNEE-JERK REACTION, AND
THAT'S NOT WHAT IS
HAPPENING.
>> WHAT IS INTERESTING, I
STARTED THIS PROCESS A
LITTLE LESS THAN TWO YEARS
AGO.
I DID A LOT OF RESEARCH
INTO THE DISTRICT AND THE
ELECTION TRENDS IN THE
DISTRICT.
I WENT TO WASHINGTON, D.C.
IN AUGUST --
>> Rooney: SHE WAS ONLY
ELECTED 18 MONTHS AGO.
>> RIGHT.
AND SHE RAN UNOPPOSED IN
THE 2008 CYCLE.
BUT I HAD TALKED TO THE
NATIONAL REPUBLICAN PARTY
DOWN IN WASHINGTON IN
AUGUST, AND THEN I WENT
AHEAD AND STARTED PUTTING
TOGETHER MY CAMPAIGN, A
GROUP THAT WOULD RUN MY
CAMPAIGN IN SEPTEMBER.
SO WE FELT SOMEWHAT
VINDICATED BY SCOTT
BROWN'S ELECTION BECAUSE
WE'RE AT THE POINT WHERE
SOMETHING IS GOING ON IN
MASSACHUSETTS AND WE FELT
THERE WAS AN OPPORTUNITY
HERE.
>> Rooney: I'M CURIOUS
ABOUT THE KIND OF TEA
PARTY PRESENCE THERE.
YOU WERE TELLING ME A LOT
OF PEOPLE -- THEY WERE
YOUNG AND ORGANIZED.
BUT ACCORDING TO THAT
STUDY THAT JUST CAME OUT
LAST WEEK, MOST OF THE TEA
PARTY PEOPLE ARE OVER 45,
WHITE MALE, WEALTHIER.
BUT THAT IS NOT
NECESSARILY THE NEW
REPUBLICAN.
>> I DON'T THINK THAT'S IT
ACROSS THE BOARD.
ONE GUY WHO I THINK IS
REPRESENTATIVE OF THE TEA
PARTY STRAIN HAVING AN
EFFECT ON THE BROADER
G.O.P. -- I SHOULDN'T SAY
THE BROTHER G.O.P., BUT
CAMREL JANE, AND A WOMAN
WHO CAME UP IN THE STATE
REPUBLICAN ESTABLISHMENT.
JANE USED TO BE A
LIBERTARIAN.
HE IS ENDORSED BY RON
PAUL.
HE IS A BIG TEA PARTY FAN,
AND HE MANAGED TO GET THE
15% TO GET ON THE BALLOT.
NOW, I'M NOT EXPECTING HIM
TO BEAT MARY.
HE HAS A VERY, VERY TOUGH
ROW TO HOE THERE.
BUT HE SEES HIMSELF, AND
CANDIDATES LIKE HIM, AS
SORT OF BRINGING THE
MASSACHUSETTS REPUBLICAN
PARTY BACK TO WHERE IT
SHOULD BE.
BRINGING IT AWAY FROM A
WILLINGNESS TO SUPPORT BIG
GOVERNMENT PROGRAMS.
MAKING IT MORE
CONSERVATIVE FISCALLY, AND
IN SOME CASES, SOCIALLY,
ALSO.
>> Rooney: JON, WHERE DO
YOU SEE YOURSELF FITTING
IN WITH THE WHOLE TEA
PARTY STRUCTURE?
>> I TELL EVERYONE I'M
WILLING TO GO AND TALK TO
ANY GROUP.
MY MESSAGE IS NOT GOING TO
CHANGE WHATEVER GROUP I'M
TALKING TO.
I WAS AT THE TEA PARTY
EVENT IN BOSTON.
AND I WAS AT THE TEA PARTY
EVENT IN LOWELL.
I THINK THAT THE TEA
PARTY -- WHAT THE MEDIA
THINKS OF IT IS SAD.
I THINK IT IS AN
ORGANIZATION WHICH IS A
GOOD ORGANIZATION --
>> Rooney: YOU'RE
ASSUMING THAT THE MEDIA
DOESN'T THINK MUCH OF IT?
>> THAT'S MY GENERAL
IMPRESSION.
I DO THINK THAT THE TEA
PARTY IS BRINGING PEOPLE
WHO UP UNTIL NOW HAS NOT
BEEN INVOLVED IN THE
POLITICAL PROCESS.
THAT'S GOOD FOR DEMOCRACY
AND GOOD FOR US.
>> Rooney: COMING OUT OF
THIS CONVENTION, I WAS
SURPRISED THAT CHARLIE
BAKER WAS IMMEDIATELY
TALKING ABOUT TIM CAHILL,
AS OPPOSED TO GOVERNOR
DEVAL PATRICK, WHO IS MORE
LIKELY TO BE HIS PRIMARY
OPPONENT, LET'S FACE IT.
>> THAT'S TRUE, BUT
CHARLIE BAKER NEEDS TO
SHORE UP HIS BASE BEFORE
HE CAN WORRY ABOUT DEVAL
PATRICK.
AND CAHILL HAS BEEN IN SID
WUS TO THE TEA PARTY AND
RUNNING TO THE RIGHT ON A
LOT OF ISSUES.
THERE WAS A POLL THAT CAME
OUT, A WESTERN NEW ENGLAND
COLLEGE POLL TAKEN PRIOR
TO THE G.O.P. CONVENTION.
BUT IT SHOWED BAKER
TRAILING BOTH CAHILL AND
PATRICK.
AMONG REGISTERED VOTERS,
34% FOR PATRICK, AND 29%
FOR CAHILL, AND 27% FOR
BAKER.
AND NOW THAT MAY BE
DIFFERENT TODAY BECAUSE OF
ALL OF THE VISIBILITY
BAKER HAS.
CAHILL IS NOT A ROSS PER
PER -- ROSS PEROT.
HE IS A REAL THREAT.
>> Rooney: CHARLIE
BAKER, AND ALL OF THE
GOVERNORS ARE FISCALLY
CONSERVATIVE, SOCIALLY OR
EVEN MODERATE LIBERAL.
CHARLIE BAKER IS THE SAME
ON THAT ISSUE.
DOES THAT MATTER TO THE
TRUE DIE-HARD REPUBLICAN?
>> I THINK THIS YEAR'S
ELECTIONS ARE GOING TO BE
POCKETBOOK ISSUES.
THOSE ISSUES ARE GOING TO
MATTER TO A SEGMENT OF THE
REPUBLICAN PARTY.
BUT OUR CAMPAIGN IS
FOCUSING ON JOBS.
WE THINK OUR MESSAGE CUTS
ACROSS THE POLITICAL
SPECTRUM.
AS I SAID EARLIER, WE'LL
GO AND TALK TO ANYBODY WHO
WANTS TO LISTEN TO US.
>> Rooney: WE'RE LOOKING
FORWARD TO HOSTING A
DEBATE HERE BETWEEN YOU
AND NIKI TSONGAS.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
>> THANK YOU.
>> Rooney: WHEN WE
CONTINUE, THE QUESTIONS
YOUNG WOMEN ARE AFRAID TO
ASK.